From owner-freebsd-bugs Wed May 2 13: 6:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Received: from vaio.linnet.org (dhcp224.ws.afnog.org [213.172.132.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11EBB37B424 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:06:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from b.candler@pobox.com) Received: (from brian@localhost) by vaio.linnet.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA09718; Wed, 2 May 2001 20:04:45 GMT Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:04:44 +0000 From: Brian Candler To: Lyndon Nerenberg Cc: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: conf/26774: Installation of rmail, even without sendmail Message-ID: <20010502200444.A9708@linnet.org> References: <200105021750.f42Ho2N53957@freefall.freebsd.org> <200105021823.f42INVg25793@orthanc.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <200105021823.f42INVg25793@orthanc.ab.ca> Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 12:23:31PM -0600, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > The problem here is that current rmail's assume there > will always be an MTA present, however there has never been a > standardized command-line API for interacting with the local MTA. > (The /usr/{lib,libexec,sbin}/sendmail one is about as close to a > defacto standard as you can get.) We have mailwrapper, however > I don't think that's the correct solution. The common sendmail > command line interface just can't cope with things like DSNs, > message tracking, and authentication. Indeed. But doesn't this problem go away if you say "every MTA must provide its own rmail-type program"? The problem is that every MTA is now tied to the rmail<-->sendmail interaction. Currently rmail invokes sendmail -G -oee -odi -oi -p%s -p%s[:%s[.%s]] -f%s.s but it changes periodically. OTOH, if I replace /bin/rmail with a symlink to exim or smail, it just does the right thing. Regards, Brian. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message