From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 14:04:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6F416A4CE for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:04:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483F843D39 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:04:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pfak@telus.net) Received: from diamond ([206.116.24.146]) by priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.00.05.02 201-2115-109-103-20031105) with SMTP id <20040301220408.UTJI28713.priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net@diamond> for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 15:04:08 -0700 Message-ID: <000e01c3ffd9$1ee9a2c0$9c01a8c0@diamond> From: "Peter Kieser" To: References: <20040301210843.64256.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:04:08 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2082 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2082 Subject: Re: my thoughts on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 22:04:08 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott I. Remick" To: Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 1:08 PM Subject: Re: my thoughts on FreeBSD > Maybe you mean mergemaster? Mergemaster is very scary... an overhaul of > that > part of the process would solve 80% of what makes updating FreeBSD an > unpleasant experience for the enduser. The rest is pretty painless, > really, > once you get used to it. Not to say the other parts couldn't be made > easier > for the normal desktop user... but mergemaster isn't even friendly for the > technically-savvy. :) I think they just need to revise the mergemaster(8) man page, they need to explain the concept better. I understood how to use mergemaster after someone explained it to me properly. I don't see how they could really make this automated, because so many people have custom configurations and different environments. However, some of the files processed by mergemaster could be removed, or there could be an explanation of each file while running the script. -- Peter Kieser pfak@telus.net