From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jun 19 19:02:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA03464 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 19:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vinyl.quickweb.com (vinyl.quickweb.com [206.222.77.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03454 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 19:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mark@localhost) by vinyl.quickweb.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) id VAA21630; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:57:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970619215732.54070@vinyl.quickweb.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:57:32 -0400 From: Mark Mayo To: Michael Smith Cc: Mark Mayo , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world error in RELENG_2_2 References: <19970619182720.20258@vinyl.quickweb.com> <199706192341.JAA00235@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69e In-Reply-To: <199706192341.JAA00235@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>; from Michael Smith on Fri, Jun 20, 1997 at 09:11:03AM +0930 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, Jun 20, 1997 at 09:11:03AM +0930, Michael Smith wrote: > Mark Mayo stands accused of saying: > > > > I realize that. I just wanted to see if the error popped up that way. Turns > > out it doesn't. I ended up just doing a "make -k world" and manually > > building tcl afterwards. Note that I did > > cd /usr/src/include > > make > > make install > > > > on the second try before running make world. This *should* be updating my > > /usr/include , no? > > No. "make includes" at the top level does that. Yeah. However, I still don't understand why my header files are screwed. Here's what I'm confused about: 'make world' fairly early in the game does a 'make includes'. Based on this I assumed that I didn't have to manually do a 'make includes' myself. Result: doing a 'make includes' while the old /usr/include still existed didn't get me a clean build. After following the advice of Jordan and Mike, I did cd /usr/include rm -rf * cd /usr/src make includes Result: cd /usr/src/include; install -C -o bin -g bin -m 444 a.out.h ar.h assert.h bitstring.h ctype.h db.h dirent.h disktab.h err.h f2c.h fnmatch.h fstab.h fts.h glob.h grp.h strhash.h histedit.h kvm.h limits.h link.h locale.h malloc.h memory.h mpool.h ndbm.h netdb.h nl_types.h nlist.h paths.h pthread.h pthread_np.h pwd.h ranlib.h regex.h regexp.h resolv.h rune.h runetype.h setjmp.h sgtty.h signal.h stab.h stddef.h stdio.h stdlib.h string.h strings.h struct.h sysexits.h tar.h time.h timers.h ttyent.h unistd.h utime.h utmp.h vis.h /usr/include cd /usr/src/include/arpa; install -C -o bin -g bin -m 444 ftp.h inet.h nameser.h telnet.h tftp.h /usr/include/arpa usage: install [-CcDps] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 file2 install [-CcDps] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 ... fileN directory install -d [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ... *** Error code 64 Stop. *** Error code 1 Hmm. Seems like the install program fails when there's no existing stuff. Soooo, I grabbed a copy of /usr/include/* from an up and running 2.2.2 machine, put them in my /usr/include and then did 'make includes'. It worked. I did notice that the tcl libraries (which are my problem) were replaced (I mean the include files for the tcl libraries..). I'm hoping this is where the problem is. I also removed the depend files from the src tree: root:{126}/usr/src % find . -name "*depend*" -print ./contrib/groff/pic/depend ./contrib/libg++/libg++/src/depend ./contrib/libg++/libg++/tests/depend ./contrib/libg++/libio/depend root:{127}/usr/src % find . -name "*depend*" -delete Then I removed the entire object tree rm -rf /usr/obj/* I checked one more time with CVSUP to see that I have everthing, and I do. I'm doing to do a make world now to see if it works. I don't think that the above procedure is entirely obvious. II also shouldn't have to grab files from another machine to build my include directory. make includes should do it for me. The point of all of this is quite simple: I had a problem. I even worked out my problem (make -k world;make tcl separetly afterwards) in my own clutsy way. I wanted to see if other were having the same sort of problem so I posted to -hackers. All you did was give a frustrated "you're wrong. you must have hosed you machine. there's nothing wrong with 2.2". You then proceded to imply that such questions were asked by "incompetent" people, and suggested that any competent person would figure out how to do it. Thank yo very much. What an intelligent response. I'm not responding to your post directly, since I have no desire to get in a flame war. I almost replied and called you and ignorant, elitist asshole. But upon pondering the situation, I really don't think you are. You're just frustrated by "incompetent people". Of course, what you would call incompetent I would call "inexperienced". Fine. I'm "incompetent". I asked a question. I didn't criticise FreeBSD. I didn't even complain about it. I just wanted to find a nice solution to my problem, since my incompetent solution is just a hack. Fuck me for wanting to learn something. You see, believe it or not, I don't know as much as you about FreeBSD. I'm 21 years old, and I've only been using Unix for under 2 years. I've only been using FreeBSD for 1.5 years. I'm trying to learn as much as I can as quickly as I can, but I'm not familiar with the details of the build mechanism, and I'm not a C guru. Maybe someday I will, but for now I'm just a learner. So in the future, if it bugs you to have to deal with us newbies, just don't read our emails. That way we won't bug you, and you won't bug us. In the mean time, I've been documenting everything I learn about FreeBSD so the other newbies like myself don't have to bug your majesty. http://vinyl.quickweb.com/mark/FreeBSD I'll be adding a section entitles "What to do when make world fails", that will go throough some of the common problems that might occur during dramatic reorganizations of the source tree, and how to get around them. Thanks to Jordan and others who actually responded with suggestions. -Mark > > -- > ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ > ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ > ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ > ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ > ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" 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