Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 22:44:58 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch <j@uriah.heep.sax.de> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Subject: My final opinion about this i18n issue Message-ID: <199510162144.WAA26408@uriah.heep.sax.de> In-Reply-To: <VlQ6dWmeMT@ache.dialup.demos.ru> from "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" at Oct 16, 95 05:52:10 pm
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As =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= wrote: > > >Neither do I see any clear argument for the proposed change :-) > > Ok, I repeat it again maybe slightly different than in original message. > (I suggest to read original message too, there was few words about > DISABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE. Well, I suggest to read what I write maybe > not each time but sometimes). Why should somebody even want to have it disabled, provided it's doing the right thing? > I assume that you sometimes like to see your native language > well imbedded into various FreeBSD pgms, do you really happy > to type setenv ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE (well, maybe put it > into .login) or explain this feature to everyone who asks > instead of simple got-it-automatically when LANG is set? Putting it into the utilities would do the same. :-) I would perhaps agree to put ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE into the default /etc/profile and /etc/csh.cshrc scripts. At the very least, this would still remind people that there's a hidden gotcha here. In the long run, it should be handled right anyway. I cannot see a better time to start making it right than now. 2.1 is gone (from a developer's point of view). No chance to change it there (in particular, given the rather serious xterm bug). There's still an unforeseeable time until 2.2 might complete. Starting to fix the utilities now would give enough time to find about the remaining bogons in all our programs. Hacking something that would yield the same effect, but only in a more obfuscated way, is not something i would like to see. Neither does Poul. And the remainder of the crew appears to be tired about this lengthy discussion anyway... Nobody did vote for your point so far. (Not even me, although i rather like to see the `ö' in my name spelled right and not as an `v'.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)
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