From owner-freebsd-current Sat Dec 22 8:30:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from meta.lo-res.org (meta.lo-res.org [195.58.189.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3C337B419 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 08:30:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (aaron@localhost) by meta.lo-res.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBMGUa262335; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:30:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from aaron@meta.lo-res.org) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:30:35 +0100 (CET) From: aaron To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Joe Halpin , "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: spam In-Reply-To: <200112210540.fBL5e7584983@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: <20011222171949.K62162-100000@meta.lo-res.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > :I'm starting to get spam since I joined this list, and the spam is > :coming from freebsd.org. If I'm reading the headers right, it's coming > :in through a freebsd.org mail server. > > Ha. In the last two weeks the amount of personal spam I receive has > gone up exponentially. I'm getting around 60 a day now. I'm not > surprised that the list is seeing a big increase. > > I can only hope that our illustrious congress has grown as tired of > spam as I have and will fix the law to simply ban it. I doubt it: a) the have secretaries (if at all!) to read the mail b) spam = money the solution must lie in something with authentication. E.g. everyone subscribing to this list has to submit his/her pub key and every message should be signed. I image this as something like a quasi-moderated list. If you post something to the list it will first be read by a moderator. If the moderator agrees on the fact that this is not spam, it _must_ be accepted to the list and thereby the sig / pub key is inserted into a DB. Future mails arriving from the just included submitter will be sent to the list without moderation. Thus the moderator is a a one time check for submitters. only people interested in the subject will pass. spammers wont have the time to get interested in -current internals. (usually). After passing once you are free to post as before. I know many people wont like the idea presented above. But it is the only reasonable check I can think of that would exclude spam while at the same time permitting reasonable open access. Of course I am open to better ideas. greetings, aaron (Vienna) --- COSHER = Completely Open Source, Headers, Engineering, and Research To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message