From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Feb 27 21:28: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7714537B846 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:28:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 79864 invoked by uid 1000); 28 Feb 2000 05:28:01 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 06:28:01 +0100 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: Chuck Robey , Michael Bacarella , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: idea: official hardware manufacturer blacklist - let's wake em up! Message-ID: <20000228062801.B79545@rohrbach.de> Reply-To: karsten@rohrbach.de References: <20000228061639.A79398@rohrbach.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from scrappy@hub.org on Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 01:22:17AM -0400 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-Sender: karsten@rohrbach.de Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG okay, thats a good point let's concentrate on the good things in life ;-) i mean, with all that yamaha crap i had going on the last weeks i am really demotivated... they should be a little more open minded... apparently, we got no contact i this company and so they wont have their hardware supported - tough luck... (and i dont have any audio on my laptop) /k The Hermit Hacker(scrappy@hub.org)@Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 01:22:17AM -0400: > On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > > > hm > > > > i mean, do the hardware people want their stuff supported or not? that's > > the main question > > some seem to choose the NOT. > > right, and that is their perogative ... you can't create a "blacklist" and > publicize it, it makes us look bad, not them. What you can do is create a > "recommended hardware", or "well supported hardware" list ... > > Don't show the negative, only show the positive ... promote those vendors > that are open to FreeBSD, don't put down those that don't ... > > > > /k > > > Chuck Robey(chuckr@picnic.mat.net)@Sun, Feb 27, 2000 at 11:44:42PM -0500: > > > On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, Michael Bacarella wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I love the idea myself, but I have no power over FreeBSD :( > > > > > > You may not like the shape of the world, but I don't think getting > > > publicly nasty about it is going to have any positive effect. It WILL > > > have a negative effect, as FreeBSD would gather the reputation of very > > > vindictive; it's even very likely that, somewhere along that road, a > > > lawsuit over some wording would arise. > > > > > > You just can't get what you want all the time. > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, > > > chuckr@picnic.mat.net | electronics, communications, and signal processing. > > > > > > New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up > > > fictitious words in the dictionary. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > -- > > > Experiments must be reproducible; they should all fail in the same way. > > http://www.webmonster.de http://www.apache.de http://www.splatterworld.de > > (NIC-HDL KR433/KR11-RIPE) > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy > Systems Administrator @ hub.org > primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org > -- > die rechtschreibreform macht spas! http://www.webmonster.de http://www.apache.de http://www.splatterworld.de (NIC-HDL KR433/KR11-RIPE) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message