From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 21 19:05:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A1F106566C; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:05:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF9E8FC1C; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7LJ5BFs044009; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:05:11 GMT (envelope-from bapt@freebsd.org) Received: (from bapt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q7LJ5BEY044008; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:05:11 GMT (envelope-from bapt@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: bapt set sender to bapt@freebsd.org using -f Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:05:00 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Garrett Cooper Message-ID: <20120821190500.GA46595@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <20120820194313.GC23607@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20120821132643.GE37262@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20120821134623.GH5044@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <5033D0C0.4030805@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Doug Barton , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgng 1.0 release schedule, and HEAD switch to pkgng by default schedule X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:05:11 -0000 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:47:36AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > > On 8/21/2012 6:46 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > >> I would also like to just remove pkg_* tools from RELENG_10 if that fi= ts the > >> schedule. > > > > Um, no? >=20 > ... >=20 > > What _would_ be useful is what should have been done many years ago when > > it was first suggested: Move the pkg_* tools to ports. >=20 > It already exists -- it's just out of date / crufty: >=20 > $ make describe > pkg_install-20090902|/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg_install|/usr/local|FreeBSD > -STABLE version of the package > tools|/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg_install/pkg-descr|portmgr@FreeBSD.org|por= ts-mgmt||||||http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/ >=20 > > It's too late for 9.1 already, but if you made that change today in > > HEAD, and after 9.1 (but before 8.4) you MFC it to stable/[89], then you > > could theoretically make pkg mandatory after 9.1 EOLs. > > > > To make my point more clear, the ports tree has to support the last > > release to ship with pkg_* tools in the base throughout its lifetime. To > > do anything else would be be a massive POLA violation. >=20 > Agreed. > Thanks, > -Garrett Let's rephrase the plan: 1/ if it fits the schedule: get rid of pkg_* tools in current to be able to= have a fully pkgng only 10-RELEASE 2/ switch 9.2 (the ports tree) to pkgng (but keep pkg_* tools maybe drop th= em, but that is to be discussed to avoid POLA 3/ do the same for 8 once all of our supported release are fully pkgng aware and all the pkg_* release are EOLed, drop support for pkg_* tools from the ports tree. regards, Bapt --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlAz29wACgkQ8kTtMUmk6ExrlgCgl2KExigBBlfHciEoOoWicaSq Lm0AnRqmvtDmD6JF8O2FHdmLApJY5afN =Ch5O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ--