Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:25:57 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@futuresouth.com> To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@flood.ping.uio.no>, "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@u.washington.edu> Cc: W Gerald Hicks <wghicks@bellsouth.net>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lets Endorse KDE Was: some slashdot thread Message-ID: <19990202182557.O16540@futuresouth.com> In-Reply-To: <xzpaeyxsojj.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>; from Dag-Erling Smorgrav on Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 12:16:16AM %2B0100 References: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9902011726110.3728-100000@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu> <xzpaeyxsojj.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>
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On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 12:16:16AM +0100, a little birdie told me that Dag-Erling Smorgrav remarked > "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@u.washington.edu> writes: > > Again, making KDE a default will help new users. Thos of us who know how > > to swing our X configs to and fro don't need or necessarily like KDE. > > Don't judge this issue on the fact that KDE is not a 20 year development. > > Judge this issue on the help KDE will provide newbies. Put yourself in a > > non-cs degreed non-programmer non-unix users shoes and then look at the > > issue. > > I mostly agree with Jason on this point. Making KDE an easily- > installable option, if not the default (remember, even XFree(& isn't > installed by default), and having somebody look after KDE to make sure > it works out of the box, may (will?) do wonders for FreeBSD's > popularity with the "masses". Just to toss my personal red cents in... (hey, doesn't everbody?) I'm a twm person. I'm playing with ctwm now to see what I can do with it. I love it. It's lightweight, has basically every feature I want and a lot I don't. On the flip side, it DOES take a bit of work to set it up the way you want, and the defaults suck like an intern. If we had to make a new 'default X wm/etc', my vote would have to be for fvwm. The first system I ever used X on ran a fairly simple fvwm setup, with a button bar handling a few common things (netscape window, a mail(pine) window, xterm, few other things) and a root menu with a few more intricate. Still very simple, but it was obvious how to use it. I quickly (as soon as I got a decent config) switched over to twm, having seen and used it on my second X experience, but I still like fvwm; it has a good combination of cleanliness, configurability, and friendliness. Get a good basic config, and it'd be perfect for 'newbies' of any classification, IMO. --- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * is because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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