From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 19:34:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42497106568D for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:34:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD69A8FC12 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 64399 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2009 19:34:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WvYJmQLjezPts171hV2OLDD5fknYZw14RbkenAArmrvuK/s4WpHrjv9w0xminVYTrRRqd65UHLLjbVRZg5JfxsFNXGj9NrkkVCzuoD1lU75VDm8JJ4E4jjInXqMjELrcVuFBEKaXf4mkw9sLsEGhC/+rGXKGDx9GeVU0snapsnU= ; Received: from c-67-189-183-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.183.172 with login) by smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Oct 2009 12:34:35 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: aAHDBFgVM1mvvhE91e2sTQvfr_.FvMKLSfUJJsoHDOD_Xhf.3cevqZQLldwiWxy1.0qlo6otcyD7PLwTt6CZ.V_wEg.o5a04Dm0mGwkrx.Z.no8X0VyuU8w1.7yaeF3Al1hTpd8YppraZj5F4EM2gAx21Y6YnqM.sokIDpfI1oNnsDsq7iV62mIihcOQZlXPMAzJ4ZMs1q9zdBBHrz7xUwtzpXTKbD9MpZTPJfH2sywLjD0TK7aCwes6vwMDYZDr6WpShtACJ92MusAuzmrLwrzMuyvH_WS.gNruDCtC1nCRlSFz_IF3GDzt8O2dUPsiRsPtHqRjbno9sSBTZLsrAcF2R9GnDObPFvFhEFrFfjmDS0urpGqcrix38PE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A319A2282C for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:34:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:34:34 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091013153434.7a27cef3@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEX+/v7++v6YOTrq8PCcuIX989UvOSj++v0BNCbpAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1dU8GOqzAMNKIoV1bvwD1i0ysqrHplIdBrVSX7ATSbd03VVvn9tQNtQy0hjAdn7LED4AAcPtWm9RV+MPSfxhBLx9ajd6X/ngB6/mTwnRSZua7i7Ca+0ctZKo4Qmz+JY13X6I3nFZBxIYW1PbgfQ5RP8g0XlltEWGf3cV03joYpRnFbvYDKbXjZlXyyhEZA4lI+cN3NaVXE4VKjSwTExO10eTEkkJVqIAD5z0nUBQJluQDRSQjcrBiHAJxZlAH5CUMBMC7OcJ4LMQNnxhZ1HYPscMc6J4UlWRMNwzOpCcAHKSICd1EDn83abdREIbXsHkD1OinP1aCUCOEVRaa1lMcvywUWdYgk13JQUpYNKmvXQ8Kw5ML9YI5h8SakctBc7E/IYuLhYd/zZIk+1gM1vNweQBvHE0j+oYah3sMqAytQYlZk6+ANaaawJdu3OFzYGMZ3iGpa3qMlq9ZH0VZTgrCtw/ngdYkEIIpSbP1bWQAdFdX9vocBdkH2qVjVmuMu3gI5rjs814EUdrCZgWlPaxZZ3RiLFUtr+ud0PXwp2dnQSNXgePt6AZpBj6UMJ7VQkzN4utVeaSW1Dhn/kblGrKeMvNGnzwX4zuEDarYz1KdPtR60Gul0Gued+515SJXhCsl+Tx/3kY/UDvicPll9mfu50t3tvQ/thZpJYgeuwdSKNJ6tCD98MCgoxLDaPxbwqqwPWaWiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: server specification. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:34:36 -0000 On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:45:02 -0600 Tim Judd (tajudd@gmail.com) replied: >Certain OEMs (ahem, Dell) I don't pick due to it's known legacy >support or Technical Support unsupporting an OS that they don't get >paid for. Even if it's a hardware problem, they ask "try to duplicate >the problem in windows, then we'll be able to support you". > >I turn Dell down, when I deal with my customers. I have had excellent results with both Dell and HP. In the case of Dell, twice they have shipped over night parts I required that were under warranty at no cost to myself. I think it is a little naive to feel that a company is suppose to support any product that they are not actively associated with. There cheaper models do use quite a bit of legacy products; however, the intermediate and top end machines are far better. They also offer the customer far more ways to customize the product. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com The bugs you have to avoid are the ones that give the user not only the inclination to get on a plane, but also the time. Kay Bostic