From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Aug 12 04:52:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA18948 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 04:52:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bytor.rush.net (bytor.rush.net [209.45.245.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA18943 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 04:52:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lynch@rush.net) Received: from localhost (lynch@localhost) by bytor.rush.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA01119; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:51:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lynch@rush.net) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:51:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Lynch To: Greg Lehey cc: jgrosch@mooseriver.com, Nick Hibma , FreeBSD-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: solaris is free. In-Reply-To: <19980812194840.M28142@lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org yeh, I've had no problems with Solaris x86 at all, at IDT we used to run it for the IRC server, and a few other things (including the new GEnie stuff) (I no longer work there, thank god) I run this machine at home triple boot 98/FreeBSD/Solx86 and its not bad either.... I still prefer FreeBSD though.... its also not *too* much of a "forgotten child" at Sun since they are pusing Solaris for Intel lately alot more than they used to.... ___________________________________________________________________________ Pat Lynch lynch@rush.net Systems Administrator Rush Networking ___________________________________________________________________________ On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > (following up to -chat, where it belonged from the start) > > On Wednesday, 12 August 1998 at 2:29:37 -0700, Josef Grosch wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 11:06:25AM +0200, Nick Hibma wrote: > >>>> Note that this is only free in the sense that you can buy it > >>>> for a low cost from Sun. > >>>> > >>>> You don't get source. > >>>> > >>>> You don't get the ability to give copies to other people. > >>> > >>> My guess is that Sun is beginning to feel the heat from FreeBSD and > >>> Linux. Last time I looked very few people we running Solaris on X86. Mayby > >>> they are starting to worry about all those older Sparc's running NetBSD. > >> > >> To be honest, x86 SOlaris has always been a bit a forgotten child in the > >> Sun family. > > > > Given the speed of Solaris on x86 I'm not surprised. When I was contracting > > at Sun earlier this year I went around installing FreeBSD on machines that > > were running Solaris. Even hard core Sun people were surprised at how much > > faster FreeBSD ran. > > I had lunch with a group of ISPs today, and two of them were telling > me how they had more or less completed their migration from Linux to > FreeBSD, mainly because of the stability of FreeBSD SCSI support. One > thing they were really missing was kernel threads: they found that a > Linux box maxed out at about 25 hits per second, and the same box > would pass 90 hits per second because of kernel threading. They > hadn't been able to max it out under FreeBSD, but there was no reason > to believe it would perform as well as Solaris. > > Solaris isn't all bad. I'm getting the feeling that threads and MP > support are going to make or break FreeBSD. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message