From nobody Sun Mar 27 15:55:04 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBE11A3007D for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 15:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) Received: from the-host.tinka.africa (the-host.tinka.africa [105.22.37.14]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KRL5002jnz3FrZ for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 15:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tinka.africa; s=tinka; h=In-Reply-To:From:References:To:Subject: MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=PNpnP2fFP6aag4FddywPNzFuX1p3NZ4ZWDLGrG2rulA=; b=g2N+qU5vcLrv6IR7v7wUYcEH4 LJohssw1bmES/v2zlKkksoySH8eL+FEVsmmBU8wJD33+uAdFlRNSnB8wLJjWHpJA2mQmG3YMeXxm5 /vEn5MxWsd0LMX7lka0tKYCcbThOt4Be0p5bOIbLUhypB3p1kVcGGi0NdfsKiu7Ml7omnNwzembq4 QlxWmmzy+g+t7kj7F4mwpAfWG6tuGF+B77iJaTxSf9lEa3Ta+L7m3fssxZbcRo647TmF2F0+Jomv9 srvVb06t87n81Dq+i1pLyTNw3cUBc5AhdMKA66HqrM7MdHTfjA0rh6VPvDR8zCfpcaCcOGZpmnRKX 8WJ02k8IA==; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by the-host.tinka.africa with esmtp (Exim 4.92.1) (envelope-from ) id R9EUVT-00018T-0Q for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 17:55:05 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------eh0MuKsmUBUlIn8A8UqVlvQG" Message-ID: <2441ae2f-0726-f72f-88bd-6686f1751faf@tinka.africa> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 17:55:04 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.7.0 Subject: Re: Using a FreeBSD desktop was somehting about dog food Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <38b7f44-6d54-fec6-c1f0-d3609d301687@safeport.com> <20220327081341.ef6a08004fb6986edf1b941e@sohara.org> From: Mark Tinka In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4KRL5002jnz3FrZ X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tinka.africa header.s=tinka header.b=g2N+qU5v; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=tinka.africa; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mark@tinka.africa designates 105.22.37.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mark@tinka.africa X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tinka.africa:s=tinka]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mark]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:105.22.37.14]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tinka.africa:+]; HFILTER_HELO_2(1.00)[the-host.tinka.africa]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tinka.africa,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37100, ipnet:105.16.0.0/12, country:MU]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------eh0MuKsmUBUlIn8A8UqVlvQG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 3/27/22 11:25, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > Over the years , without relentlessly I am mentioning this difficulty > point . > It seems that there is no hope to reach   a solution to this problem . > I do not know why . My thoughts are that if folk want pretty and easy, several options already exist. The open source world is, IMHO, more concerned with making inaccessible features and services available to the masses at the very least. Having to add lipstick and ribbons is less of a concern. To be fair, I don't see anything wrong with that. It mirrors real life... if people are willing to give you their free time to get you access to something typically only available to a few, it's pretty hard to be a chooser. Mark. --------------eh0MuKsmUBUlIn8A8UqVlvQG Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 3/27/22 11:25, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:



Over the years , without relentlessly I am mentioning this difficulty point .
It seems that there is no hope to reach   a solution to this problem .
I do not know why .

My thoughts are that if folk want pretty and easy, several options already exist.

The open source world is, IMHO, more concerned with making inaccessible features and services available to the masses at the very least. Having to add lipstick and ribbons is less of a concern. To be fair, I don't see anything wrong with that. It mirrors real life... if people are willing to give you their free time to get you access to something typically only available to a few, it's pretty hard to be a chooser.

Mark.
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