Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:23:52 -0800 From: Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org> To: Dennis <dennis@etinc.com> Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: if_fxp - the real point Message-ID: <200103082124.f28LNqS01219@mass.dis.org> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 08 Mar 2001 14:43:56 EST." <5.0.0.25.0.20010308135349.02818a90@mail.etinc.com>
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> maybe commercial vendors would be willing to fund some freebsd projects if
> there was a positive relationship.
They do, and there is. I'm continually irritated that we can't work out
a better relationship with you/ETinc, since I think it'd be to our mutual
benefit. You're just one of those people that we don't seem to get along
with. 8(
> And DG has been MIA for a long time, not just recently. The last time the
> fxp driver was broken i found the fix and pointed him at the code. I guess
> I'll have to fix it this time also, as if maintaining drivers for 6 serial
> cards and the bwmgr isnt enough for me to do. Maybe I'll sell it this
> time. :-)
*laugh* If you don't, please file it as a PR and beat people up until it
gets committed. This is the best way to go, under the circumstances.
> >Call BSDi (numbers on their website) and ask to speak to Gary Johnson
> >(CEO) or Mark Garver (senior VP) and ask them yourself. If you get a
> >useful answer, please tell the rest of us; especially me, since I burnt
> >out trying to make it happen.
>
> Ive spoken with Mr Johnson several times. hes the biggest reason that BSDI
> is what it is. Amazing that hes still there. He has no concept of what the
> market wants. First he wanted to challenge microsoft (at similar prices)
> for the server market now he wants to be redhat. funny guy.
If you're unhappy with the results you're getting from Gary, try calling
Kirk McKusick. Keep kicking people.
> So what is the "relationship" that was announced? If they dont provide
> support or funds, what do they do?
That's a Very Good Question.
--
... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his
rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want
to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force
people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt]
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