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Date:      Fri, 7 Jan 2000 08:10:07 -0500 (EST)
From:      Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org>
To:        wes@softweyr.com (Wes Peters)
Cc:        advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: license (no longer Re: uptimes, Woo Hoo)
Message-ID:  <200001071310.IAA17308@blackhelicopters.org>
In-Reply-To: <38753925.C30D57B@softweyr.com> from Wes Peters at "Jan 6, 2000  5:53:57 pm"

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> > You know, Wes, I would have joined this group quite some time ago if
> > I'd known what it was *really* about.
> It's about time you showed up here.  Where's your keyboard print?

I tried, but the puny little full-size keyboard got caught between my
testicles.  Haven't seen it since.

> > ObContent: The GPL has a variety of license documents, explaining why
> > it's good and what it's for.  Is there such an article about the BSDL
> > that I can point people to?
> Yeah, straight from the horse's^W^W Kirk McKusick:
> http://www.sendmail.net/?CssUID=&CssServer=&SessionName=&feed=interview004
>"you had copyright, which is what the big companies use to lock everything up;
>you had copyleft, which is free software's way of making sure they can't lock 
>it up; and then Berkeley had what we called "copycenter," which is "take it 
>down to the copy center and make as many copies as you want."  You want to go 
> off and do proprietary things with it?  Fine, you can do that.  You want to 
> keep it out in the Open Source domain?  You're welcome to do that as well."

That's a nice statement of what it is, but not a statement of "why."
Allow me to explain why I ask:

I'm pretty much surrounded by Linux bigots.  Their big pro-Linux
argument that they have is the GPL, and how it's great for the
community.

So, is there any highfalutin' purpose behind the BSDL?  Or is it as
nonpolitical as it appears to be?  Having had this argument many
times, I'd like something better than "we don't care"; from an
advocacy point of view, that never comes across well.

I find Kirk's explanation adequate.  But it doesn't stand up well
against the "community spirit" of the GPL.

Personally, I use BSD because the network performance and reliability
blows Linux out of the water on the same hardware.  But that's
difficult to prove at the bar.

==ml


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