From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 7 7:48: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF3B37B406 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 07:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020607144752.KPHT11426.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 14:47:52 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g57Elqfs001997; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 07:47:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g57ElqBZ001996; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 07:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200206071447.g57ElqBZ001996@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Kenneth Mays" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Viewpoint on 4.6RC4 In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to "Kenneth Mays" message dated "Fri, 07 Jun 2002 08:42:33 -0400." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 07:47:52 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If memory serves me right, "Kenneth Mays" wrote: > My only request is that we get to test these applications and > have some of them become the default applications in the base system: Hi Ken-- Thanks for the feedback, but it's way too late to be suggesting feature improvements for 4.6-RELEASE. The time to make suggestions like this is at the start of the release cycle, not the end. Please see the schedule for 4.6-RELEASE: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6R/schedule.html The releases are not about making newer versions of programs available for testing. They're about making available the best-tested, most dependable code we're able to provide, within engineering and logistical constraints. If you want to test new stuff *and* you can deal with possible breakage, try -STABLE or -CURRENT. That being said, many of the programs you've listed are already in the ports collection that will ship with 4.6-RELEASE. They might not be identical to what might eventually show up in the base system (due to some changes, bugfixes, etc. that get made by our developers when integrating them). > 1. NTP 4.1.1a /usr/ports/net/ntp > 2. Sendmail 8.12.4 Very recent...I didn't even know this existed until a couple days back. It was added to the ports collection after the ports freeze. > 3. tar 1.13.25 or whatever is the most updated 'stable' version. /usr/ports/archivers/gtar > 4. GCC 2.95.3 & 3.1 selections in GUI (whatever is the most reliable) /usr/ports/lang/gcc295 /usr/ports/lang/gcc31 > 5. OpenSSH 3.2.3 and OpenSSL 0.9.6c/d That OpenSSH release is pretty recent. I don't think it made the ports freeze either. /usr/ports/security/openssl > 6. Samba 2.2.4 Not in the base system. /usr/ports/net/samba > 7. Nvidia recent drivers (test these with Xfree86 4.2.x) on Quadro/geforce > boards Don't know about these. If we ship them, it'd be in ports, not the base system. > I just notice that this was some of the current issues we are having besides > the basic/advanced base system testing. Some of this was already done but > listed here for reference. > > I know FreeBSD isn't intended to be a Solaris 9 for the free world (or is > it?!?) and I know we all have problems with hardware issues (the most > common). Is there an easier way to put all our issues together in a simple > doc to compile the information needed to make improvements for the 4.6 > release?!? I'm sorry, I don't understand these two paragraphs. Hope this helps, Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message