Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 18:46:50 -0700 From: "Pat Maddox" <pat@patmaddox.com> To: "Greg Wallace" <greg@freebsdfoundation.org>, "Tomek CEDRO" <tomek@cedro.info> Cc: "Alice Sowerby" <alice@freebsdfoundation.org>, freebsd-enterprisewg@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request for updates: EWG call next week Message-ID: <1beb0871-4d0c-469f-933a-2362657a9c9c@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAP=s-_hP5ZtOhehXkuUiWW28vFTTrfsoYNq5i761rB9hHoYRVQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAE=KKV_iAmr1VALTgswVnxP_PXza44Oo6zk0rNWdfuGde4OSZQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAFYkXj=FUGyTai3-N=cXw-Og5i5czkZsaCa0OZ6QnUb-L9D_UQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAP=s-_hP5ZtOhehXkuUiWW28vFTTrfsoYNq5i761rB9hHoYRVQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I=E2=80=99m personally inclined towards NVIDIA because they officially s= upport FreeBSD. Intel / AMD on the other hand come in via the drm-kmod p= ackage from Linux. It=E2=80=99s been really difficult to find authoritat= ive info on which models are supported. I can go to nvidia.com and find = exact models that will work. So my concerns around GPUs in order: 1. Reliable info on models that work with FreeBSD (this is a huge pain p= oint in the forums) 2. CUDA / an alternative 3. Open source Pat On Tue, Sep 10, 2024, at 6:01 AM, Greg Wallace wrote: > Hi Tomek! > > Let's discuss the question of broadening the NVIDIA AI topic to includ= e=20 > other chip makers on the next call.=20 > > When we started the WG, the pain point that was raised and that=20 > participants agreed on was NVIDIA support on FreeBSD. This I think is=20 > due to two factors. First is NVIDIA's lead in AI chips and associated=20 > software and second because CUDA is proprietary. The latter point=20 > making it important that the Foundation play some role. > > For Intel and AMD, it's great to see them emerging with strong=20 > alternatives. In addition, my understanding is that their respective=20 > CUDA alternatives are primarily open source. This makes it possible fo= r=20 > the community to work on FreeBSD support. At least that's my=20 > understanding.=20 > > All the above said, I will add for next week's agenda > > Regarding Wifi, this is a known area that needs improvement but that, = I=20 > submit, is outside the scope of the enterprise WG. > > Greg > > > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 9:04=E2=80=AFAM Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info> = wrote: >> Hey there :-) >>=20 >> I can see only NVIDIA GPU support but no AMD GPU support.. and so no >> INTEL GPU support. I guess the problem is with general GPU support >> that relates to DRM right? Can we add this broad scope please? >>=20 >> Also recently I was traveling more and used WiFi more than Ethernet >> connections. I must admit current WiFi support looks really bad (old >> standard support, speed, reliability, no 5GHz band). We should also >> add WiFi to the list..? Not to mention setups like modern WiFi AP + >> wireguard access network on FreeBSD my friend recently was thinking >> about. >>=20 >> Have a good day :-) >> Tomek >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 2:02=E2=80=AFPM Alice Sowerby >> <alice@freebsdfoundation.org> wrote: >> > >> > Hello everyone, >> > >> > Heads up that the next EWG call is next Wednesday, September 18 at = 5pm UK. I will be on PTO and Greg Wallace (cc'd) will be hosting. >> > >> > Please let me know in advance any updates you may have, and copy Gr= eg in. >> > >> > Or, please update the spreadsheet directly: >> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pM3boLIcKj26lq7XbwGMBXW0-F8= 4We3r_Xc3zovHjaQ/edit?usp=3Dsharing >> > >> > Hope you have a great call! >> > >> > Alice. >> > -- >> > Alice Sowerby >> > Part-time Program Manager, Partnerships & Research >> > M +44 7787 953393 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > > > --=20 > Greg Wallace > Director of Partnerships & Research > M +1 919-247-3165 > Schedule a meeting <https://calendly.com/greg-freebsdfound/30min>; > Get your FreeBSD Gear <https://freebsd-foundation.myshopify.com/>;
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