From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Sep 22 7:52: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9438F37B423 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 07:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA26859; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009221453.KAA26859@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:50:52 -0400 To: Len Conrad , Wes Peters From: Dennis Subject: Re: low-cost/low-speed HDLC WAN card Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20000922081407.02ed6370@mail.Go2France.com> References: <39CA90BF.8DEC13D0@softweyr.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20000921123747.05ec3600@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08:27 AM 09/22/2000 +0200, Len Conrad wrote: > >> > I'm back again looking for a low-cost, 128 kbits/sec WAN card, even >> > ISA, single-port with HDLC V.35/X.21/V.11/EIA530. I need this to >> > drive leased-line links in France. >> > >> > etinc.com's got a 10-year-old model 5025 ISA card but it's $475 and 2 >> > megabits. We use two now in our ISP and it works fine, but to use >> > FreeBSD in a big nationwide VPN/IPsec project, we need to keep >> the price down. >> > >> > We can buy a Zyxel 153X WAN router for about that price, but it >> > doesn't do VPN nor more than one ethernet i/f nor does it's >> > non-loggable, limited packet filtering come anywhere near ipfilter. >> >>This may sound heretical, but have you considered using the router AND a >>FreeBSD firewall? > >Yes, of course, this is precisely our approach for the ISDN local >loop, with the sweet little Zyxel 128 ISDN router/bridge as our >"ISDN-to-Ethernet" bridge (no ip in Zyxel), since we think Zyxel ISDN >functions are well ahead/proven vs what we can accomplish with the >ISDN card/drivers for FreeBSD. > >Dennis/etinc is calling me silly for not asking for a discount on his >cards, so I'll see how low he can go. But we've realized that the 1U >and 2U boxes have PCI risers, not ISA risers. PCI cards are cheaper in volume than ISA cards. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message