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Date:      Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:50:52 -0400
From:      Dennis <dennis@etinc.com>
To:        Len Conrad <lconrad@Go2France.com>, Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: low-cost/low-speed HDLC WAN card
Message-ID:  <200009221453.KAA26859@etinc.com>
In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20000922081407.02ed6370@mail.Go2France.com>
References:  <39CA90BF.8DEC13D0@softweyr.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20000921123747.05ec3600@mail.Go2France.com>

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At 08:27 AM 09/22/2000 +0200, Len Conrad wrote:
>
>> > I'm back again looking for a low-cost, 128 kbits/sec WAN card, even
>> > ISA, single-port with HDLC V.35/X.21/V.11/EIA530.  I need this to
>> > drive leased-line links in France.
>> >
>> > etinc.com's got a 10-year-old model 5025 ISA card but it's $475 and 2
>> > megabits. We use two now in our ISP and it works fine, but to use
>> > FreeBSD in a big nationwide VPN/IPsec project, we need to keep 
>> the price down.
>> >
>> > We can buy a Zyxel 153X WAN router for about that price, but it
>> > doesn't do VPN nor more than one ethernet i/f nor does it's
>> > non-loggable, limited packet filtering come anywhere near ipfilter.
>>
>>This may sound heretical, but have you considered using the router AND a
>>FreeBSD firewall?
>
>Yes, of course, this is precisely our approach for the ISDN local 
>loop, with the sweet little Zyxel 128 ISDN router/bridge as our 
>"ISDN-to-Ethernet" bridge (no ip in Zyxel), since we think Zyxel ISDN 
>functions are well ahead/proven vs what we can accomplish with the 
>ISDN card/drivers for FreeBSD.
>
>Dennis/etinc is calling me silly for not asking for a discount on his 
>cards, so I'll see how low he can go. But we've realized that the 1U 
>and 2U boxes have PCI risers, not ISA risers.

PCI cards are cheaper in volume than ISA cards. 


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