From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 19:15:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FBC16A469 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2007 19:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from mo-p07-ob.rzone.de (mo-p07-ob.rzone.de [81.169.146.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A08213C44C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2007 19:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from athena.laverenz.de (p5480ce17.dip.t-dialin.net [84.128.206.23]) by post.webmailer.de (mrclete mo58) (RZmta 7.2) with ESMTP id J05362j56IfYBd for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:15:40 +0200 (MEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8019E0AA335 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:15:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18108-05 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:15:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix, from userid 2000) id C91C2E0AA32A; Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:15:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:15:38 +0200 From: Uwe Laverenz To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070606191538.GB17016@laverenz.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <5fbf03c20706050031p6f25d02cyae7a91593e40171a@mail.gmail.com> <20070605082244.GB22215@com.bat.ru> <46652DEF.1070709@netfence.it> <20070605124644.GD22215@com.bat.ru> <4665E9A1.2030402@FreeBSD.org> <20070606074347.GA8107@laverenz.de> <4666EB90.7020303@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4666EB90.7020303@FreeBSD.org> Organization: private site Sender: uwe@laverenz.de User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de X-RZG-AUTH: l30WrtbrzmfyRJtZ7/TtK2qIdZIgjE9K4Q55TXGhenj8TX5ShWTsXpHkgsZpldVh X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Subject: Re: [net/samba3] Upgrade to Samba 3.0.25a X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:15:42 -0000 On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 10:14:56AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > Well boo hoo! If you're smart enough to be useful in testing new > versions, you're smart enough to modify the port yourself, or build > the software without the port. Yes, I guess that's true. > Sorry to be so flippant, but this whole line of reasoning is absurd. A No problem, but I didn't mean it as hard as you might have read it, maybe my English is not clear enough sometimes: I wanted to express that I like the fact that FreeBSD ports are so close to the upstream versions. Other systems tend to deliver heavily patched and outdated versions. I certainly don't think that every untested bleeding edge software should go into ports, but normally an official samba-release fixes more problems than introducing new ones. > port maintainer has to take the best interests of the majority of the > userbase into account, not cater to edge cases, especially when the > edge cases ought to be able to get their own hands dirty. Yes, of course. > I also think it's useful to keep in mind that we are giving you the > bits for free, and there is nothing stopping you from doing whatever > you want to do with them. I know. I'm sorry if you got the impression I wouldn't appreciate your work. I guess my English is just too clumsy to be precise enough sometimes. Uwe