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Date:      Thu, 26 Mar 2015 23:44:17 -0400
From:      Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Seagate Archive HDD
Message-ID:  <5514D211.406@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <5514D0A9.1040106@delphij.net>
References:  <alpine.BSF.2.20.1503261124380.1417@laptop.wojtek.intra> <55148E42.80708@delphij.net> <4F65B315-5FFE-4184-91FD-C05A40E0A26E@dons.net.au> <5514A133.8060409@delphij.net> <88DE4F68-B05E-4E4D-8C4A-DED8147172E7@dons.net.au> <CAJ-VmokEQjDXSHTn7o%2BEDnyrjDxckQkvWgQokKhhY1T1m3t_wA@mail.gmail.com> <5514D0A9.1040106@delphij.net>

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On 2015-03-26 23:38, Xin Li wrote:
>=20
>=20
> On 3/26/15 17:58, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> ... all the talk about this stuff, and yet noone's talked about
>> how ZFS is supposed to be append only, and boy wouldn't that be
>> awesome. :)
>=20
> It doesn't overwrite existing data with the assumption that a, let's
> say, 4K-native drive doesn't have a 1MB "band" when writing.
>=20
> I hope the "journal" would be helpful for this assuming it is on
> non-volatile medium...
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> Cheers,
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Also, ZFS does write to the vdev label (256kb each, 2x at the front and
2x at the end of the drive) frequently (every transaction group, so at a
minimum, every 5 seconds by default). The vdev label has a ring of
uberblocks, that then point to the most recent metadata. If there was
some special place on disk these could be located to avoid being part of
a large band, and avoid the write amplification, that would likely make
a big difference.

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Allan Jude


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