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[173.25.245.129]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m2sm3030108iol.75.2018.12.08.20.56.44 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 08 Dec 2018 20:56:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 22:56:40 -0600 From: Justin Hibbits To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changes in porting based on new freeBSD support model? Message-ID: <20181208225640.44358223@ralga.knownspace> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.1 (GTK+ 2.24.32; powerpc64-portbld-freebsd13.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C07A1793D1 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.71 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-1.80)[ip: (-6.12), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.49), asn: 15169(-1.30), country: US(-0.09)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.90)[-0.904,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 04:56:47 -0000 On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 02:22:25 +0100 Daniel Sharoh wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry if this is question is not supposed to go here. I've been using > the freeBSD PPC port as a desktop since 10.3, which is now EoL. I see > freeBSD follows a new support model, but given the tier 2 status of > the PPC port, it is unclear to me how closely work for PPC tracks > fully supported architectures. Is there conventional wisdom about > when upgrading PPC freeBSD is sensible? It took a good deal of effort > to build a working system on this old iMac G5, and I'm not sure > attempting an upgrade is worth it if the main development target is > the newer POWER systems. > > Thanks! > Hi, Although our primary new work is targeting the POWER systems, we have no plans to abandon the Apple PowerMac platforms. Though I no longer have a working G5 for FreeBSD myself, I make every effort to debug with those who do, and anything that's shared with the G4 I can test on my various G4 systems. - Justin