From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 7 09:58:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188CE106566C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel@digsys.bg) Received: from smtp-sofia.digsys.bg (smtp-sofia.digsys.bg [193.68.3.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDEA8FC19 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dcave.digsys.bg (dcave.digsys.bg [192.92.129.5]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-sofia.digsys.bg (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q579wEm6064770 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Jun 2012 12:58:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from daniel@digsys.bg) Message-ID: <4FD07B36.4060304@digsys.bg> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:58:14 +0300 From: Daniel Kalchev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.4) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/10.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erich References: <4663489.XnqCi6nxiI@x220.ovitrap.com> <4FD0719A.8000009@digsys.bg> <2523784.GUyhWnxsTH@x220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <2523784.GUyhWnxsTH@x220.ovitrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:58:19 -0000 On 07.06.12 12:30, Erich wrote: > On 07 June 2012 12:17:14 Daniel Kalchev wrote: >>> just do what was recommended in this thread: wait. Tell this ones to >>> a commercial client. They will use words on you for which use you >>> get a life ban on this list. >> If you are not qualified enough to handle issues like this, you would be >> better to avoid offering your "integration services" to anyone. Or, of >> you dare to -- you fully deserve those people yelling at you, or worse.. >> >> Those who use FreeBSD to offer integration services and are qualified do >> not whine, neither they wait. Those people do what the promised to do: >> provide the customer with the requested solution. >> >> No, you are not born with prior knowledge of how ports work on FreeBSD, >> it takes lots of time, effort and discipline to learn. You either invest >> in learning the basic skills required to offer your services to others, >> or you go play elsewhere. >> > this is precisely the kind of answer which stops people from using FreeBSD. > > Thank you for repelling more people and keeping the user base small. None of this is unique to FreeBSD. It is exactly the same no matter what OS or other tool you use. Either you know your tools and do your job for the benefit of your customers. Or you don't know your tools, to the detriment of those who trusted your claims otherwise. As expected, you got the last sentence wrong. I wasn't referring to FreeBSD, but to consulting and integration services :) English is apparently not native to both of us. Daniel