From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 27 18:06:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCF614B6BCE for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18501753F4 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=rcn.com; s=20180516; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@rcn.com; t=1548612357; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Fl2HSj7HFYI/aRH9ngn0MYwbeK8=; b=gp8s3kbIYrSskMb3RMpg3uLvJeFSI+05habzgSgc6qP6oo7XjBLy537kyS8TYNYv bCNUM74s7PA+dv/yMlnlhx0iK1rqAdzdea075UG5JRLSiiyhxuGmZ5YBVxA6aRsI 675mU/nGWC7QvvDL3p9kgcwQDcooRrFldYEmDQIRxbUJpZCQESDi6xUhz/3Dn48d gV8OIMc2I/RlMCg2tPs0twbzLQ28SsT1/Aae98oj4fmoY2SST4rM39jPoN+GRBwC ySjrPvmRxnbTzZ7yDNxLFDqJvcABPC9p1Fg83AHjFSIXlrU/Aeian58suTgVkOGx bDxf5QI77x14cWbh6z8XlA==; X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=J9zo10vS c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:117 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:17 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XRQyMpdBKAEA:10 a=3JhidrIBZZsA:10 a=48faUk6PgeAA:10 a=mn67-02PvYQ4Vfx_XyMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Authentication-Results: smtp03.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp03.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=roberthuff; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [209.6.230.48] ([209.6.230.48:41993] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id 72/A4-20095-403FD4C5; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:05:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23629.62237.774384.921659@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:06:21 -0500 From: Robert Huff To: Valeri Galtsev Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless interface In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 18501753F4 X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=rcn.com header.s=20180516 header.b=gp8s3kbI; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=rcn.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of roberthuff@rcn.com designates 69.168.97.78 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=roberthuff@rcn.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.92 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rcn.com:s=20180516]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[78.97.168.69.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:69.168.97.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[rcn.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rcn.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rcn.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx.rcn.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.89)[-0.887,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.92)[ip: (-9.32), ipnet: 69.168.97.0/24(-4.50), asn: 36271(-0.73), country: US(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:69.168.97.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[78.97.168.69.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:06:05 -0000 Valeri Galtsev writes: > As one clever man said, you will pay, one way or another. With MS > Windows system you will pay money for using it. You will also pay > money for using 3rd party software - antivirus. MS is the only > system vendor I know of who explicitly tells you it is not safe to > use their system without 3rd party software (antivirus). A "free for personal use" edition of one of the well-known antivirus products was the first thing I installed on my Windows 10 systen after the OS itself. Elapsed time less then five minutes, and it auto-updates. While this system sits behind a FreeBSD gateway that provides limited firewall/anti-virus protection, it's been running for over a year - including browsing and e-mail - with no apparent problems. Is there something I am perhaps unaware of? Respectfully, Robert Huff