Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 07:50:02 -0800 (PST) From: Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org> To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: misc/33906: tic program is missing from the base FreeBSD installation Message-ID: <200201151550.g0FFo2v53899@freefall.freebsd.org>
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The following reply was made to PR misc/33906; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org> To: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: misc/33906: tic program is missing from the base FreeBSD installation Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:43:50 +0200 On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 05:30:57AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Come on guys, do you think I have anything better to do > than think up useless PR's to torture you? > > Of course I know that tic is available in ncurses. > > The ncurses that is in devel is marked forbidden due to > conflicts with the ncurses that is in the base install. > It's quite unlikely that the run-of-the-mill > system admin will know that the curses in the FreeBSD > base install is the same as ncurses, and even if he > guesses that it is, since the port is marked forbidden > he's unlikely to install it - thus generating more > support questions when he wants to add in a terminfo > source. > > The ncurses that's included in the base install has > had it's tic program castrated out of the distribution > by the same people that exorcised the System Visms > out of ncurses - probably because they assumed that all > tic is used for is creating entries in the terminfo > database, and since FreeBSD has no terminfo database > then tic isn't needed. However this is a bogus assumption > because unlike the garden-variety tic included in other > System V Unixii, the tic that is part of the ncurses > distribution can also be used for converting terminfo > source files to termcap. Therefore it still has a > use even in a system that has terminfo struck out of it, > and should be included in the FreeBSD base install. > All these do not count in favor of putting tip(1) back into the base system -- nothing in the base system uses tip(1) and terminfo stuff. If you want, you can submit another PR to the "ports" category stating that the devel/ncurses port is broken, but I think it's a known issue, and without a suggested solution it would only spam the PR database. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message
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