From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 20:00:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10BE5A28; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x22a.google.com (mail-qc0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 918782B34; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id c9so2609474qcz.29 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 13:00:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TxPCPMrlWy2/HkGZgXnJUPOGG19RJ+IQbQ82hbtshJs=; b=fHcD4YKqcPTspcXnm/wOnDtkU1m6k3qU+3VCI9J1m5GwFwY5Wu9oirnyngSQBUNAZM g0hOG3K/00fUzHDRo+m/NZaszNDlJkFtwnzlGX5S1ySUHFQs1lXZOp/jN+nfkOKOjLtE ogWMXcIJa90SwMAmbi/Z8USV3VCGyihkgnWKNu9PZx4CSoDYRnZZsNwPn83OEAhd6Han uKl55owzKrK0+mV4g9zh/D3D6xrYgGdvNYpHDVZzn+rZPFJFVyAJhsrH4wA9OiuhO8G5 4x8XNrYG7WXjf+xCaCiGqPgZKvVQ2Of3JCOGtGWSMSICCBarj1kl7gM+oOLEh1/Sexdj pOpg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.223.135 with SMTP id ik7mr33894930qab.26.1405627203701; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 13:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.202.193 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 13:00:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 13:00:03 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6n1OnJWyg3T1sJ_yvKQymHuRu10 Message-ID: Subject: Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg? From: Adrian Chadd To: Andreas Nilsson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Craig Rodrigues , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-current Current , ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:00:05 -0000 On 17 July 2014 12:57, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box >> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it >> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a >> problem; > > I disagree on this. For network services on linux ( apart from ssh ), I want > that started very seldom. But I do want the package installed so that when I > need it, it is there. Having it autostart as part of being installed is > breaking KISS and in some way unix philosophy: I asked for something to be > installed, not installed and autostarted. That's cool. We can disagree on that. But the fact that you have to edit a file to enable things and hope you get the right start entry in /etc/rc.conf or /usr/local/etc/rc.conf, or wherever you put it is, is a pain. -a