From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Apr 17 19:52:23 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDB95E11E6 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 19:52:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x330.google.com (mail-wm1-x330.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::330]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FN3dM0zZHz3HPP for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 19:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x330.google.com with SMTP id o9-20020a1c41090000b029012c8dac9d47so8943555wma.1 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 12:52:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=+jiNSOLYbT164E9QFgkyFYYYvoFqHfxoZ0A8WqP6sB0=; b=V/6MwezxmXssoTmg+DfQdPzm2+vDAJATpO0QKDnaGw8WO+81xBX7khF+pMaPy7ukHJ 3oVOMfmVrieOn1NKPUqAB7/82rzFH45R5lcZMq3J1Bg/ugU6yLYHMCVpeAdQdp10zX0P GBJ5zdfHCDl2Jho48N/AfbZGWqka6M0U/eB2w7lvyYzTzBNhhEQR9mJCCFIMvyKzferR rucu330vj06ILJrIOWn8rRwn+YokG28r4H8dXJF4+mkxPbKC/xi64TWiCL+8wJHBzDHn 8iMC1wKvd7zcqgjyZVieU61qLNHNfia/JC8a4pmMZOHoKom4pMxXmZcyOiBCuboz3gYr bYsA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=+jiNSOLYbT164E9QFgkyFYYYvoFqHfxoZ0A8WqP6sB0=; b=iBvmsj0ha+wAWBQgj3RX5SX9Dz1BSs1Hz9SYf9NEp1h0TD9LxgmBaNqo7A5ENNi9lV fI+tkW2vGQOYEXX1ALamicVpQdJzFfJFnOuRMbtfwrl5EYfpQXWvp5wdnBnWUd2+MyDy SVu/njbZDMaX+UbTIjoSRtOlyABw4EIJrgZqrDamir4PwgrJerGVS+xtDYbXkoddwVZ0 +pYUxSbL7lY17rdfErjBix99CL6XRZHF14Hp/g06gghCmpedi+q4KEtlQu1lF/wiSkwc Gk35yLEtadkWIWfUOgGpSJ9FhbTRgeG5JE9gqPF3Lj/qwHU5q9vZjjAczLnvPj93krC+ QacQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530LQg6mKrRoPugiqn8O8GkGjgqED1/4qv1xrA1wXPpwiKxa7dQH 6oNnRZbaGnWXg+2N1RLavg11Sof8HrtC3w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwtOd+DjBXPHck74QzU7vZXVv902/c9X0qMIhABtFWGLSHWvYMwOjq9FVdjS6N9IYmCeeujWg== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:f30a:: with SMTP id q10mr13551155wmq.128.1618689141209; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 12:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (88-105-96-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com. [88.105.96.80]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m15sm12911032wrx.32.2021.04.17.12.52.20 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 17 Apr 2021 12:52:20 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-current From: Graham Perrin Subject: Review D28062 of /usr/src/UPDATING with regard to upgrading FreeBSD and inconsistency with the FreeBSD Handbook Message-ID: <705578b0-9d8e-3ad2-77c2-96a20ad3a16e@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 20:52:20 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FN3dM0zZHz3HPP X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=V/6Mwezx; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::330 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[88.105.96.80:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::330:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::330:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::330:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 19:52:24 -0000 1) lines 2273 and 2275 With ZFS in the mix, /usr/src is present but empty (the file system is not mounted). If single user mode is recommended, then why is this not in the FreeBSD Handbook? 2) line 2274 etcupdate -p I get: > No previous tree to compare against, a sane comparison is not possible. In the past I simply ran etcupdate after make installworld. If etcupdate -p fails before make installworld, then should the subsequent etcupdate be with or without option -B ?