From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 17 09:37:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D4C16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 09:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8329243D48 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 09:36:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from slave-mike@slavepix.com) Received: from slavepix.com (c-66-177-119-177.se.client2.attbi.com[66.177.119.177]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2004051716365601400f34q9e>; Mon, 17 May 2004 16:36:56 +0000 Message-ID: <40A8B25F.8020409@slavepix.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:38:55 +0000 From: slave-mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040516 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <006801c43bd4$49362fd0$6501a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> <20040517131956.GB91803@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20040517131956.GB91803@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: timh@tjhawkins.com Subject: Re: New work on installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 16:37:00 -0000 If one were to *not* use the installer to setup a FreeBSD system, (aka, like *old* dos, each step done manually), what are the manual steps involved? Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 01:00:37AM -0500, timh@tjhawkins.com wrote: > >>Has there been any new work on the installer or planned? If not, I would like to help... What about graphical? > > > There's been plenty of planning and various projects to "produce > something better", but to the best of my knowledge all such efforts > have basically ground to a halt. Probably the one that got closest to > actually getting into production was the libh project -- > > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/libh.html > > but that seems to have imploded under a too ambitious development > plan, and apparently nothing new has been produced by it since 2002. > > Note that the system installer tends to be quite a sore point around > the various FreeBSD lists, with all sorts of claims about the current > sysinstall(8) ranging from loud praises to downright hostility, often > by people who haven't got the foggiest idea of how to improve things. > It's also a topic that regularly gets bikeshedded to death. > > Cheers, > > Matthew >