From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jan 14 16:31:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12461 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:31:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12456 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:31:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id JAA05942; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:30:19 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <369E861E.8DE99189@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:04:46 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jbryant@unix.tfs.net CC: Kazutaka YOKOTA , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Forward all spam to UCE@FTC.GOV References: <199901141505.JAA65083@unix.tfs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jim Bryant wrote: > > i understand your point of view, even though I disagree with it to an > extent. You sure? Please explain exactly how your arguments below fit the "message in japanese, written by japanese, sent from a japanese site to a japanese on another japanese site" pov. > > the ftc must be made aware of all spam terminating in the us. the sec > and fda are secondary recipients in all cases, the ftc handles trade > issues, and has the authority to forward to other agencies for further > actions. > > regulation, on a worldwide scale, is only a matter of when, not if. > that time is probably going to come a lot faster than a lot of people > think. IMHO, it should have been done five years ago when the abusers > started showing up in force. > > all internationally originated or relayed spam is just as important so > as to intelligently allow the state department here to draft new, and > more effective telecommunications treaties that could potentially > punish countries who don't take spam seriously. > > having an autoforwarder forward all spam to the ftc address, including > false positives, can only help our government realize the extent of > the problem, and the state of the technologies that currently attempt > to fight it. > > also, we need isps to get a bit more responsible. if you identify a > local high-volume spammer, hire a dump truck, buy a load of manure, > and dump it on the front yard of the spammer's home/business. call it > freedom of speech, they do. > > jim > -- > All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, > think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or > radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Inet: jbryant@tfs.net AX.25: kc5vdj@wv0t.#neks.ks.usa.noam grid: EM28pw > voice: KC5VDJ - 6 & 2 Meters AM/FM/SSB, 70cm FM. http://www.tfs.net/~jbryant > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > HF/6M/2M: IC-706-MkII, 2M: HTX-212, 2M: HTX-202, 70cm: HTX-404, Packet: KPC-3+ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com If you sell your soul to the Devil and all you get is an MCSE from it, you haven't gotten market rate. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message