From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 5 12:00:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D511065676 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:00:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787878FC30 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:00:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c30so769378ika.3 for ; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:00:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=o8uFPSaUR1Y4227Lkh4ybkNaCSf8zk3tLbzaKg6zCCo=; b=DXctRp8INkvM6Wxjqmcz/Ub00ymv3g5BcaERw8xKOzcDZw8CHKMDRYctpqFQa3+GNE bzzxfcdUYPS7wK1rQRmQPHNWVgsMvy8xn5BRHQAs2OqXZ+99lJPGm5NWNfo0SFhLWNyP pqW4JAobUDCA61jzX6I2EsRcd8DwNE5PR+ecA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=dbzlJIhaGSOl5QLR660rpmu+UmB9xFwfiQrnJAatUvkkUVXdZA1mZsBsfLYL7eomIL lAMhQBNpACGZgbXqA2Q+IMBAL1Xg4t9ZBgLQkxSbe2SznbHwhNYlQnUvGx0SqtGnZok2 ZYK3dup70kmN8vmTBGXwfRpHyLmlsf2F+9wdU= Received: by 10.210.11.1 with SMTP id 1mr1196996ebk.96.1215259257086; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.34.1 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 05:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c0b01820807050500k6604b4fsa4a5bbe09d05ca1e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 08:00:57 -0400 From: "Alexander Sack" To: "Matthias Apitz" In-Reply-To: <20080705051605.GA1840@rebelion.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080704124227.GA10264@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080704164015.514425fd@bhuda.mired.org> <3c0b01820807041712l39bdafd8sf3914c2b462023c6@mail.gmail.com> <20080705051605.GA1840@rebelion.Sisis.de> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mike Meyer Subject: Re: kernel HEAD && userland 7.0-REL? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:00:59 -0000 On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 1:16 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Friday, July 04, 2008 a las 08:12:58PM -0400, Alexander Sack esc= ribi=F3: > >> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Mike Meyer >> wrote: >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:42:27 +0200 >> > Matthias Apitz wrote: >> >> I'm running a RELENG_7 kernel and a userland as 7.0-REL on one of my >> >> laptops; I've been asked to check if a given driver problem in RELENG= _7 is as >> >> well with HEAD... can I update the kernel to HEAD and let the userlan= d >> >> (and all my compiled ports) as 7.0-REL; I know that this is not the >> >> intention, but it would cost me a lot of work if I should compile as >> >> well ~200 ports.... >> > >> > When you say HEAD, do you mean the HEAD of 8-CURRENT or 7-STABLE? In >> > either case whether or not it works depends on whether something has >> > changed in the kernel that has a required userland change. >> > >> > On the other hand, if you mean 7-STABLE, then the ports should work >> > properly whether userland does or not. >> >> As a note, I just recently used HEAD on a 7_STABLE box to test changes >> recently to re for an updated PCIe revision NIC card on my Eee Box. >> It worked fine (both runtime and my NIC which I then patched my >> 7_STABLE tree which also worked, yea!). In a thread I started about >> cross platform building, it seems that historically FreeBSD has had a >> very stable ABI allowing multiple kernels to run underneath different >> versions of user land (this is certainly not the case for all *NIX >> variants). > > When I said HEAD, I mean HEAD in terms of CVS; and my situation is the > same: I want to check some problem with ath / hal on my eeePC 900, if it > is also in HEAD or only in RELENG_7 branch; Like I said, it should work. I did the EXACT same thing on Thursday to check the re driver on my Eee Box at work. -aps