From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 23 21:03:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA05278 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 21:03:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (root@alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA05271 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 21:02:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (gjp@localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA17360; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 00:01:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: Adrian Penisoara , Gerald Ehritz , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: pine 3.96 locks 3.0-980621 completely In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:13:31 +0930." <199807240143.LAA02750@cain.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 00:01:57 -0400 Message-ID: <17356.901252917@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Daniel O'Connor" wrote in message ID <199807240143.LAA02750@cain.gsoft.com.au>: > Err.. well isn't it kind of bad that the machine crashes? :) Yep > I mean it _pine_ crashed, then OK, upgrading would be fine, but when the > machine crashes, maybe he should upgrade his version of -current.. It won't change the fact that it is a fundamentally bad idea to rely on NFS locking for mail delivery/reading when we don't impliment said locking in the NFS layer... I know I seem like I'm trying to cover up a bug in freebsd by saying "well, don't do that", but I think anyone who knows anything about e-mail and NFS would agree that it is a fundamentally *bad* idea. (Yes, I know of at least one *large* (like >400,000 users) ISP in the US that uses NFS for mail & news stores. Doesn't mean I don't think they're stupid :) ) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message