From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 2 8:53:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503AF37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4608543EAF for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:53:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from lilith.bellavista.cz ([10.1.0.1]) by bellavista.cz (8.9.3/8.9.8) with ESMTP id RAA29666 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:53:40 +0100 Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by lilith.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180EC246 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 18:51:58 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 229A32FDAF5; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:53:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:53:39 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail / Fetchmail / Procmail / Mozilla Message-ID: <20021202165338.GD56031@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3DEA0CB4.3030204@p6m7g8.com> <20021201184537.GD86826@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <20021201200318.GA467@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> <20021202083540.GE86826@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <20021202163848.GE467@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021202163848.GE467@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # nkinkade@dsl-only.net / 2002-12-02 08:38:48 -0800: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 09:35:40AM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > # nkinkade@dsl-only.net / 2002-12-01 12:03:18 -0800: > > > On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 07:45:37PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > > > > > > > If I want to use fetchmail to snag email from say 4 different > > > > > pop acounts and then filter it with procmail and use mozilla > > > > > to read it (which I've read is trivial to do), what parts of > > > > > sendmail (or any mta) must I have running minimally on > > > > > localhost. > > > > > > > > none. you don't need sendmail to accept mail through > > > > fetchmail (just have it store messages directly in your > > > > mailbox instead of pulling them through sendmail; you get an > > > > added bonus of preventing mail loops in case you manage to > > > > misconfigure either part), and you don't need sendmail to > > > > send mail from mozilla, as it has its own implementation of > > > > a smtp client, just like any other clickoid mail client > > > > (IOW, it bypasses the standard, which is passing the message > > > > to sendmail on the command line.) > > > > > > > > note however, that disabling sendmail completely will > > > > cripple your system in that you will no longer receive the > > > > valuable output from periodic(8) scripts, and possibly in > > > > other areas. > > > > > > > > > Why would disabling sendmail cripple all of the periodic scripts? > > > Other than those scripts that relate specifically to an MTA, which > > > others would be affected? > > > > where in the text you quoted did I say that disabling sendmail > > would cripple periodic(8) scripts? I said it would cripple the > > system in that root would no longer receive the output of the > > periodic scripts. > > > > > Also, if you have another MTA just edit /etc/mail/mailer.conf to > > > point to your new MTA, as the various invocations of sendmail are > > > just wrappers that use the mailer.conf file to determine exactly > > > what they should be executing. I recently left sendmail in favour > > > of Exim. A few tweaks to mailer.conf and one or two minor changes > > > to a few of the periodic scripts and everything is in order. > > > > I was speaking about sendmail, not Sendmail. This part of the > > message was specifically about having system with no *s*endmail. > > The latter half was about disabling {S,s}endmail. I run Postfix > > on all my machines, so I guess I'm quite aware *S*endmail is not > > exactly required. > > OK. I apologize if I mis-interpreted your post. It wasn't clear to > me that your were making a distinction between "Sendmail" and > "sendmail", as you don't point out such a distinction. right, sorry. > Still, how does one totally disable "sendmail" without deleting the > wrapper named `sendmail`? My rc.conf file has > 'sendmail_enable="NONE"', yet I still receive the output from the > periodic scripts via Exim. mail/exim/Makefile installs an rc script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ > I am not trying to question your mastery of FreeBSD. ROFL, I'm a newbie. :) > I am simply trying to clarify this matter so that if I am in error I > may correct myself. I didn't want to sound hostile or anything, sorry if I managed to. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message