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	Martin Blapp <mbr@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: svn commit: r195200 - in head/usr.sbin: . wake
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Marc Balmer wrote:
>
> Am 30.06.2009 um 21:07 schrieb Sam Leffler:
>
>> Martin Blapp wrote:
>>> Author: mbr
>>> Date: Tue Jun 30 18:51:22 2009
>>> New Revision: 195200
>>> URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/195200
>>>
>>> Log:
>>>  Add wake, a tool to send Wake on LAN frames to hosts on a local 
>>> Ethernet network
>>>    Submitted by:   Marc Balmer <marc@msys.ch>
>>>  Reviewed by:    rwatson
>>>  Approved by:    re
>>>
>>
>> what's wrong with ports/net/wol?
>>
>
> wake(8) is smaller and it is actually something needed in base.  in 
> modern, ecological "green computing" environments we put the client 
> machines, like our POS terminals to sleep at night.  In the morning,  
> a cronjob from the central server wakes up all machines using this 
> command.  more and more systems support it, so havin a wake command in 
> base is just about right.
>
>
The typical way things happen in freebsd is we promote tools from ports 
when they are deemed needed in the base system.  In fact it's probably 
more important to have the tool in base remain compatible with what 
users have had in their tree (via ports).

I have yet to hear a compelling argument for why wake was chosen over an 
existing tool that's been successfully used for a while.  OTOH this 
isn't something that'll keep me up at night; it just seems like an 
ill-advised rush job that completely violates the intent of the 8.0 code 
freeze..

    Sam