From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Oct 9 00:58:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D0713C47A for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2019 00:58:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from viclamta29p.bpe.bigpond.com (viclamta29p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.93]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "", Issuer "Openwave Messaging Inc." (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46nwnX0yqFz3FsY for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2019 00:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.26.4]) by viclafep29p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20191009005811.DGHB28950.viclafep29p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2019 11:58:11 +1100 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedriedtgdeflecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfupfevtfgpvffgnffuvffttedpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecugedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhepfffhvffujgfkfhgfgggtsehttddttddtredvnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghvvgcujfhorhhsfhgrlhhluceouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqnecukfhppeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefnecurfgrrhgrmhephhgvlhhopegrnhgvuhhrihhnrdhhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqedprhgtphhtthhopeeofhhrvggvsghsugdqphhorhhtshesfhhrvggvsghsugdrohhrgheqnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.418) id 5D8A7DF9023FEBA2 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Oct 2019 11:58:10 +1100 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x990w9NO071899 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2019 11:58:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x990w8dZ071896 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2019 11:58:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 11:58:08 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Is IPV6 option still necessary? In-Reply-To: <20191009001447.GA73623@lyxys.ka.sub.org> Message-ID: References: <20191007.151841.1094708479149685365.yasu@utahime.org> <9b8c9b1b-0d26-d9d7-018a-cafa8ec98c1e@abinet.ru> <20191009001447.GA73623@lyxys.ka.sub.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46nwnX0yqFz3FsY X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dave@horsfall.org has no SPF policy when checking 203.38.21.93) smtp.mailfrom=dave@horsfall.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.15 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.970,0]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[horsfall.org]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[93.21.38.203.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1221, ipnet:203.36.0.0/14, country:AU]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.98)[ipnet: 203.36.0.0/14(-2.99), asn: 1221(-1.91), country: AU(0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2019 00:58:28 -0000 On Wed, 9 Oct 2019, Wolfgang Zenker wrote: > So, you don't *need* IPv6. But you might *want* to have it anyway. In my 40+ years career I've only encountered one (1) client that ran IPv6 internally (oddly enough, a law firm) and that was by management decree, not the tehchies' (come to think of it, I don't think they *had* a techie department). Roll the lawyer jokes... My router tries IPv6 first, but inevitably falls back to IPv4; IPv6 is a camel i.e. a horse designed by a committee. If you've ever tried to grok the IPv6 spec, your brain will explode... -- Dave