From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 19:09:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBFC16A4CE; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:09:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.omnis.com (smtp.omnis.com [216.239.128.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB08843D2F; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:09:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.homeunix.net (66-91-236-204.san.rr.com [66.91.236.204]) by smtp-relay.omnis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319508836BF; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:09:45 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr To: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=), Diomidis Spinellis Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:09:45 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <200401230450.i0N4omSZ049990@repoman.freebsd.org> <40123A86.3040102@aueb.gr> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401251909.45346.wes@softweyr.com> cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Wes Peters cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: Alfred Perlstein cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/fetch fetch.1 X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 03:09:48 -0000 On Saturday 24 January 2004 03:06 pm, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > Diomidis Spinellis writes: > > Let us not forget that the Unix manual pages provide reference > > material; they are not a user guide. They historically have been > > terse, to the point, and honest in admitting shortcomings (bugs). > > While a user might find it helpful to read the environment variable > > documentation in fetch(1), the correct thing to do in reference > > material is to document the variables where they are implemented, > > namely fetch(3), and provide a cross reference. > > Yes. I'd like to see Wes's commit backed out, please. Roger Wilco. Is it OK to make a stronger recommendation that the user=20 consult fetch(3) for some rather critical information about how fetch(1)=20 really works? As it stands, the fetch(1) page really requires reading of=20 fetch(3) as well, which is fine as long as we lead the reader there with=20 a rather blunt instrument. =2D-=20 Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com