From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 12:03:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2965716A4CE; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:03:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix3-1.free.fr (postfix3-1.free.fr [213.228.0.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F3143D69; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:03:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from valery.seys@free.fr) Received: from imp2-q.free.fr (imp2-q.free.fr [212.27.42.2]) by postfix3-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9C1173494; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:03:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: by imp2-q.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id 3652E64D88; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:57:26 +0200 (MEST) Received: from gambetta-2-82-67-185-6.fbx.proxad.net (gambetta-2-82-67-185-6.fbx.proxad.net [82.67.185.6]) by imp2-q.free.fr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:57:26 +0200 Message-ID: <1115294246.427a0a261d38b@imp2-q.free.fr> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:57:26 +0200 From: valery.seys@free.fr To: bod@freebsdfoundation.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.5 X-Originating-IP: 82.67.185.6 cc: valery@vslash.com Subject: How to communicate now ? Not by the way of freedom. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:03:25 -0000 Yesterday : ----------------------------------------------------------- : host mx1.freebsd.org[216.136.204.125] said: 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [82.67.185.6] (in reply to RCPT TO command) recipient=freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From ----------------------------------------------------------- Nice days of freedom are gone away. *AOL* >> .. a lot .. >> *FreeBSD* What is the difference btw AOL and FreeBSD ? The former is a commercial entity, the later an Opensource fundation. At first view, there's no relationship, objectives and ethics are different. So, why both are using the same bad rules, ie rejecting your email because you don't have a hostname ? What is this new rule ? I can't see it in any RFC, STD. I respect the rules, you don't. There's no rules specifying that one MTA sending a mail must have an IP corresponding to its hostname. Why ? Because there's some little independant server like mine which are master of their zone but not of their IP, because their operators don't want to allow these guys this privilege, because they want monitor, control, manage and in fact sell their shits. They don't allow you to master your IP, they prefer to block your email saying : "every guy having a MTA is potentially a pirate ; the right MTA are ours, if you want to communicate you must use our very good MTA, not yours". I just ask for one question : who send virus ? For who is the benefice ? Not for freedom, not for guys respecting a democratic communication, and thinking about the Bell brothers sending their first octet btw two computers and saying : "wow, all people would communicate now, everywhere, a great step for freedom and democracy". You're rules are purely and simply a Wall of Berlin btw the freedom and a dictatorial view of the internet. First, these rules won't eliminate virus and sender of virus. Second, breaking these rules, you agree that any commercial and private entity can evolve their own law. It's a shame. Adopting their point of view is adopting their vision : the law of the stronger, the law of private entity. I repeat my question : who send virus ? Not me, not you, not your friends, not mines, ok, but who do ? On my side, i refuse to modify my MTA in order to accept this new rule ; i prefer stop sending emails. I sincerily regret that a fundation like FreeBSD adopt these rules. It's a failure, and this one is the one of the freedom, equality and democracy. Welcome to the new world, welcome to their world. Not mine, be sure. Don't be surprise to see RFID chips on our future identity cards, we are on the right way. "For your security" said the Whyte Man. Regards, Valéry Seys valery@vslash.com Paris "In a paranoiac world paranoiac guy says the truth" P.H. Dick