From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 27 14:18:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4B6106564A for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varga.michal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A685E8FC12 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so2751686bwz.13 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:18:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:organization:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QhNqCFZqOF7mHV5nKeElWbQwfVCfZsFjA660rfz/RGM=; b=ZIeQOa0f81qJw/V4UNwmjGt6VAFsMNcuqaMMcNCHv5rsttPQNUHa037DHxVsRDzfKA Vliy1vxzutnxEe43HpSS04dUhBBzTFhvT90oRxu3rQI59/WkIQA9d5viLXE4Tg5s4eOb Tb40cwkXDhjGrKSSCD8RQDmP932qSJrEPlyi0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:organization :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=dS2KVrWxIXjZmBkgi4llWzGwX4B83+xcXt3LRhWjplktn4rurlSlm3kxh7kFG+faKx RWzIj88Z2/EE4A7erftMJ0chK1pfwDSCnlBYM2Ja9uI6+ICjCMNvEbFRHY6fQLyb7j/6 Q//T5kiHnVH35KoT/QDcnlO37uM1qAN0B8vPo= Received: by 10.204.112.81 with SMTP id v17mr3022952bkp.165.1290867523585; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:18:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.101.2] (73.44.broadband10.iol.cz [90.177.44.73]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d27sm1001330bkw.2.2010.11.27.06.18.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:18:41 -0800 (PST) From: Michal Varga To: Rick In-Reply-To: References: <1290860615.1478.15.camel@xenon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Stonehenge Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 15:18:39 +0100 Message-ID: <1290867519.1478.34.camel@xenon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnome2-lite and epiphany X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:18:45 -0000 On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 08:49 -0500, Rick wrote: > I am talking about gnome2-lite here, not the standard gnome2. Anyone > that wants epiphany is free to add it just like any other port. Yes, and the same can be said about metacity (who ever uses that, Compiz is all the rage these days), nautilus (tons of dependencies and like, every true hacker should be using midnight commander anyway), evolution (*something* *something* gmail *something* clawmail *something*), totem (yeah I love my mplayers too)... Do I need to continue? While you might feel some specific hate towards Epiphany which I'm not in position to analyze (judging purely from the fact that pulling the monstrous libxul via yelp doesn't seem to concern you at all) - it's still a default Gnome browser and an integral part of the whole "desktop experience", as - as we all know - many desktop users use to browse the web sometimes. It's only perfectly reasonable to ship FreeBSD releases with this default, clean, light and secure browser, which, by pure coincidence, is also completely awesome and for many people that don't live in the "browser OS world", it's just THE brower they need and are happy with. So what exactly is your proposal? Ship gnome-lite just without every single end-user Gnome application, because there are people that don't use that particular one? It's called "gnome-lite", not "gtk-libs-only". Just my two cents. m. -- Michal Varga, Stonehenge (Gmail account)