From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 17 23:43:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570CB16A419 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:43:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B3C13C45D for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so2339555fka.11 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:43:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ljfoS7CV0th4Y0ZBGl9UACQKtx89V8X1vT4tHa2jiTQ=; b=X2iQxREVKAvoLv/No9cMMFVvXVtANnx4eippNizxLpz4RzLII3b0KuDQt6dRcbdSy7vQo6f6Ix7ba7Na3lcR1Z1PugIaIxmNPgVrsUU6ny/hb49KQalhyT9OeR4o9NtwjnabyEyvIT+fFx5AHJ3xHGFamKto6iM8edKsG9Si1WI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RBThflwKuQ4CkrI5077kX1QvenWzWKTwcCWzj/JGdQV0Bzb6ORliYJM/PX78zQ+VQQUY7hCH56CNmXsg/5bktvP8npuwklPcIVjWy3xDvTy5cJgoaJao73D80K3waBt4pW5D3KqT44XfewDTSbffFkrmZH0yFrX2b23ujU5u0C0= Received: by 10.86.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr6981676fgb.53.1197935005600; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.91.5 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:43:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <11167f520712171543x2f0bcdd8wab2fa9ecfb67256b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:43:25 -0600 From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: "Kip Macy" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <11167f520712082309s20895ae0se1780b029745c055@mail.gmail.com> <20071217232558.GC97600@cons.org> Cc: Martin Cracauer , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 NVIDIA support in FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:43:27 -0000 On Dec 17, 2007 5:33 PM, Kip Macy wrote: > > Not to go on endlessly but also note this: "The FreeBSD kernel > > provides some support for this via cloning devices; the NVIDIA FreeBSD > > graphics driver used this interface for a while, but bugs/limitations > > and differences between kernel versions made it necessary to revert to > > regular device nodes.". So the i386 port works without this feature > > but an amd64 port won't even get started without it? > > > > It boils down to the fact that NVIDIA only has serious customer demand > for Linux. They're willing to support FreeBSD as a favor to us so long > as it is easy. > > -Kip I wonder if having a petition signed by a bunch of people would help this along, because I believe that amd64 3D accel on nvidia, is life or death to PC-BSD in a year or so. Sam Fourman Jr. Sam Fourman Jr.