From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 07:34:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AEDA106568F for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:34:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA5B8FC3D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7J7Y5nx003944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:34:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n7J7Y5nx003944 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1250667251; bh=jRbybMSE8PR1FicCULc9NZbJk0br3iPpDRwAdbQlhi4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A8BAAE7.40207@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Wed ,=2019=20Aug=202009=2008:33:59=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20 |Organization:=20Infracaninophile |User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.22=20(X11/20090817)|MIME-Versio n:=201.0|To:=20Steve=20Bertrand=20|CC:=20Sabine= 20Baer=20,=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Sub ject:=20Re:=20[OT]=20Vim=20mailing=20list|References:=20<4A8B82FD. 30305@ibctech.ca>=09<4ad871310908182259j202b1a0au82e15c7259a583c1@ mail.gmail.com>=09<20090819063126.GE81858@amd.catfish.ddns.org>=20 <4A8BA0FC.8010904@ibctech.ca>|In-Reply-To:=20<4A8BA0FC.8010904@ibc tech.ca>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.7|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Con tent-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20pr otocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------ ------enig12B169570C5A899FBB55DAFB"; b=b4NpPz1b5SaqQDxemMNriUDYeaSUxPKygSrcgDq91y3vEcbco3C8COBH4VYGCIY4s GwewokXMGHrOImJ+NiBioJ+Z6ETo4msHQEd8wobux3fnOGqwHfNjGDWfDwA2Sj1oVt 5/2R7LBghuza4PCBxwfK7ADni2otlsonBQ5vCoHM= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4] claimed to be significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net Message-ID: <4A8BAAE7.40207@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:33:59 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Bertrand References: <4A8B82FD.30305@ibctech.ca> <4ad871310908182259j202b1a0au82e15c7259a583c1@mail.gmail.com> <20090819063126.GE81858@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <4A8BA0FC.8010904@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4A8BA0FC.8010904@ibctech.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig12B169570C5A899FBB55DAFB" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Sabine Baer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] Vim mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:34:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig12B169570C5A899FBB55DAFB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve Bertrand wrote: > Am I missing something about posting to newsgroups? My understanding is= > ISP's don't utilize them anymore because of the ominous unavoidable > illegal behaviour. No -- it's not legal problems, which offer no worse consequences than for= defamatory postings on blogs or forums, but fashion. A lot of people seem to prefer to use web forums rather than newsgroups. I can't see any= particular advantage myself, and I've always preferred the e-mail/netnews= style myself. (Of course, for old farts like myself, this is a welcome return to the blessed golden age of usenet circa 1993 before the ravening hordes of AOL and it's successors descended upon it...) Because of that perceived shift, and because running a full-feed NNTP ser= ver is no trivial undertaking, many of the cheaper sort of ISPs have stopped providing NNTP as a standard part of their offerring. =20 > If this is the case, ideas on a (legal) workaround so posting to > text-only newsgroups would be great. Now that this has been brought up,= > I'd be interested if I could barder with another small ISP for this > functionality. (post on -isp). There are a number of pay-for net news services available. The ones I know of are based in Europe: http://www.eternal-september.org/ =20 http://news.individual.net/ See also: http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers/ Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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