From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 21:46:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2F437B401; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 21:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp3.server.rpi.edu (smtp3.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65C443F93; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 21:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp3.server.rpi.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h574kHiJ001058; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 00:46:17 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20030606.132404.126768734.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <20030606175954.GQ65470@perrin.int.nxad.com> <3EE0DBEC.F32AF559@pipeline.ch> <200306061829.h56IT59c048678@bmah.dyndns.org> <20030606.132404.126768734.imp@bsdimp.com> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 00:46:16 -0400 To: "M. Warner Losh" , bmah@freebsd.org From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 cc: seanc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Way forward with BIND 8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 04:46:22 -0000 At 1:24 PM -0600 6/6/03, M. Warner Losh wrote: >In message: <200306061829.h56IT59c048678@bmah.dyndns.org> > "Bruce A. Mah" writes: >: If memory serves me right, Andre Oppermann wrote: >: >: > -CURRENT and 5.1R remove BIND8 from contrib. User >: > will have to install from ports whatever pleases >: > him/her (bind8.3, bind8.4, bind9, djbdns, maradns, ...). >: > >: > -CURRENT and 5.1R import BIND9 Resolver (IPv6 aware >: > if you wish). >: >: It is way too late to make changes of this sort for >: 5.1-RELEASE. > >s/of this sort/of any sort/g > >Warner I would like to suggest that it is too late for any more particularly disruptive changes in 5.x. We'll soon have 5.1-release out the door, and I think we should really concentrate on having the 6.0-current branch happen after 5.2-release is done. We can not keep adding "just one more major change", or 5.x will never become freebsd-stable. It would be pretty painful if we come to 5.2-release, and find that we can't make the 6.0 branch until after 5.3. I would rather live with bind8 in 5.x-stable, than delay the 6.0 branch another four or five months. If we were to make this change, we first have to take the time to implement it, and then we would have to "let it sit" for at least a month or two before we would be comfortable calling it "stable" for the wide variety of users that we have. The benefit is not worth the delay, IMO. I think the project needs to avoid introducing any more disruptive changes in this branch. Just my 2 cents... -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu