From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 18:29:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E881065674 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:29:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afmcc@btinternet.com) Received: from nm1-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm1-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.108.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A59DA8FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:29:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.108.230] by nm1.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Sep 2011 18:29:01 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.225] by tm3.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Sep 2011 18:29:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Sep 2011 18:29:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 469588.81414.bm@omp1002.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 44383 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2011 18:29:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jbQpWhJRDWsyz5mFMtYk9hrscyVPDNZujSUR4ahiUJB3kBn9PuFIHELU4Y1CH5aUVenCmfZsftpdjrdn8v8527rQCmf+/90ljCQwq3DSZl+waWNFdMWBn3Zf0vV75oaPmWHGuztts4W9irojeTbfkQkw+eQmm7w21Jq5Ndz3uWU= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1316024941; bh=0UGCKXp400Gq2FftLJqCr7citrumhm31fRe9ZmlTMF4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cFgI7wwKi5RkF+zIv1ZqegVygaqbCQ203WANI67taRohomZtSGEzAMYurBBDcIQtVEVF/FAXiBqzojpS5lqO23M73LX2K0XDkZ+QBVj0dYXCrVy06cj5W8Z/AWUCGjeqejzLHTEZRgQfcZr0zYm/PRYhr6L4A0fhQX88Rhngc/M= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: NL5UzIAVM1nRTHowwAo8d28xslteLHH297ZqICCxs0O654H XkoY1QYpPrTIBW.lL9hUt1Q.vgL2WHM3xoEr7uReXDERW8SfuiyfKShd1U5s gJsRNp0xF_m_xBHXLHXH82ansFX65IjTVCLmCl9gbbYYFwzpkvQSTstJDUAR 3H8XQ1S1sVCkpn8GsOVOVi0uG7L6RaBV87.qiyrI68i5f81xvl3HAtM3dyq0 PKDtcq5LpxyUPTJ6Cknm_SBQu.A2atoM.T7IPAN2sgrZ2Zkza7kjW_FrGQPr E9Qphdxu0P8chdGJkEY6RWUnfHMTWz62GhDpo_rjAxhvkeWvoIOxKYOWg2xh xlpnQ8ugL6IidR.d1I4WCHpgehps1y5SCHNMaltsno1NyktPvwei6qY_PnoI - X-Yahoo-SMTP: GbC5zv6swBDAJAX2wjERvjXPaCXFiJJLdMa.NuzRNApZ Received: from elena (afmcc@86.186.50.181 with login) by smtp822.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Sep 2011 18:29:00 +0000 GMT Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:29:00 +0100 From: Tony Mc To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110914192900.00b1a0f9@elena> In-Reply-To: <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:29:03 -0000 On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:27:22 +0200 Michal Varga wrote: > I have no other words beyond that because I can't even seriously > imagine what those people stating how everything is perfectly fine > now consider to be a working, modern, 24/7 ready desktop workstation. I am interested to know what you regard as a modern 24/7 ready desktop workstation. Seriously, I would like to know what you think I am missing by being happy with FreeBSD. I manage to read stuff, write stuff, print stuff, listen to stuff, watch stuff, backup stuff, archive stuff, burn CDs and DVDs - what am I missing? I use tcsh and command-line tools and Emacs and org-mode and LaTeX and claws-mail and Firefox and Rhythmbox and JPilot to sync with my Palm TX. When people send me Microsoft Office documents I even use LibreOffice occasionally. I use XFCE4 as my desktop environment and switch virtual desktops to focus on different kinds of activity. The computer runs 24/7 and performs housekeeping tasks overnight and is there again in the morning when I need to start work. I suppose my needs aren't that sophisticated - but I also wonder if what is missing is truly sophistication or simply different ways of accomplishing existing tasks. So if you have the time I would genuinely be interested to learn what a modern desktop machine now needs or offers. Best, Tony