Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 17:39:20 -0500 From: Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu> To: Dan Feldman <protozoa@ghs.ssd.k12.wa.us>, Rich Morin <rdm@cfcl.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: so where is our press-release about MacOS X ? Message-ID: <p05010406b6e41f084db7@[128.113.24.47]> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0103242148060.89919-100000@localhost> References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0103242148060.89919-100000@localhost>
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At 10:19 PM -0800 3/24/01, Dan Feldman wrote: >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - 1 Apr 2000 > >SEATTLE - The FreeBSD Project, Inc. officially welcomed >today the introduction of Apple Computer's Mac OS X. The >next-generation operating system uses the TCP/IP stack >of an obsolete version of FreeBSD's flagship product, >and is otherwise completely unrelated. >:) > > - dan feldman > student, garfield high school, seattle While this is a good attempt at humor, I think it is not fair to Apple nor is it worthwhile to anyone. Apple had some people who contribute to freebsd directly (ie, they have commit access). Apple donated some hardware to help encourage FreeBSD/PPC along. Apple buys ads at several of the BSD-specific web sites. Apple has mentioned their connection to BSD's in several press releases. In short, Apple has been doing a hell of a lot more for freebsd (and all the BSD's, for that matter) then this little april-fool's article. And we're supposed to greet that positive publicity with sarcasm? At 11:18 PM -0800 3/24/01, Dan Feldman wrote: >You're right, there's no need to pick fights. But I'm >just pointing out that there's no reason FreeBSD should >work particularly hard to create the appearance of an >alliance with Apple, when all they've done is use the >source of some kernel components and a number of >utilities for a commercial product. After all, Microsoft >is rumored to have done exactly the same thing at times >and I have yet to see any press releases about a >relationship with _them_. You might want to think a bit more. Microsoft rarely admits that any of the BSD's even exist, whatever they may have done with some of the code. They do not donate anything to any BSD project. They do not sponsor BSD- related activities or web sites. At times they amuse themselves by spreading FUD about the BSD's, as they do with just about all open-source projects. If you were following the darwin mailing lists, you would know that Apple has plans to include more code from all the other BSD's, while still maintaining their own operating system. All of this is good for freebsd. Certainly I see no reason to rain on their parade. We CLAIM we want anyone to use our code for whatever they see fit, but when someone does that are we then going to give them a bunch of crap? Furthermore, the point of a press release isn't to help THEM, per se, it's to increase OUR visibility. Your suggested press release will increase our visibility in a very negative way. That is not the kind of visibility we will benefit from. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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