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Date:      Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:46:19 +0000
From:      Stacey Roberts <stacey@vickiandstacey.com>
To:        Chris Wall <chris.wall@cbrworld.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Solved on Tyan Tiger 230 [WAS: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133]
Message-ID:  <20041130024618.GU12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com>
In-Reply-To: <41AB4E3A.5040604@cbrworld.com>
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Hello,

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Wall <chris.wall@cbrworld.com>"
To: To freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 16:28 GMT
Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133

> Stacey Roberts wrote:
> 
> >Hi Chris,
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Chris Wall <chris.wall@cbrworld.com>"
> >To: To Stacey Roberts
> >Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 15:48 GMT
> >Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133
> >
> > 
> >
> >>Stacey Roberts wrote:
> >>
> >>   
> >>
> >>>Hi Mark,
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Mark Kirkwood <markir@paradise.net.nz>"
> >>>To: To freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> >>>Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 07:17 GMT
> >>>Subject: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     
> >>>
> >>>>Recently I decided to make the switch from 4.x to 5.x, now that 5 has 
> >>>>moved to stable. So about a week ago I installed 5.3 on my workstation 
> >>>>machine, a Tyan Trinity 400. All went well, so yesterday I decided to 
> >>>>do my "server" - a Tyan Tiger 133. Since these shared the same chipset 
> >>>>I thought all would go well too.
> >>>>
> >>>>Not the case, I cannot even boot from the 5.3 cd - the machine hangs or 
> >>>>reboots immediately upon trying to boot the (I get a fleeting glance at 
> >>>>the drive mappings, that is all). I have verified the checksums on the 
> >>>>iso image I used (and the same cd installed the Trinity with no 
> >>>>problems)
> >>>> 
> >>>>
> >>>>       
> >>>>
> >>>I've got the same problem here on a Tyan Tiger 230 
> >>>(http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tiger230.html). As well as with your 
> >>>experiences, I can't seem to boot two sets of FreeBSD-5.3 REL CD-ROM 
> >>>sets 
> >>>
> >>>from different suppliers. Here's what I get with any of the 5.3 REL 
> >>   
> >>
> >>>installation cd's:
> >>>
> >>>Just at the point where you'd expect the /sbin/loader bit to start that 
> >>>goes into the FreeBSD boot process, I get lots of (what appears to be 
> >>>hex numbers) gibberish scrolling up the screen. Like you I thought that 
> >>>I might have a faulty cdrom drive, but swapping in a (sealed) drive 
> >>>produced the same results.
> >>>
> >>>However, the FreeBSD-4.10 REL cd's do appear to "start" working through 
> >>>the installation, but then I get lots of errors / warnings as follows:
> >>>
> >>>acdo: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting
> >>>ata1: resetting devices... done
> >>>
> >>>These scroll up the screen for ages and do not appear to be going 
> >>>anywhere - at which point I power down the system.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     
> >>>
> >>>>This machine was running 4.10, and in case I have a suddenly bad cdrom, 
> >>>>I have installed 5.1 (the only other 5.x series I have lying around), 
> >>>>which completes fine.
> >>>> 
> >>>>
> >>>>       
> >>>>
> >>>I've not got 5.1, but I did try the 5.2.1 CD-ROM Set (from BSDMall) as 
> >>>well with the same failure. What I was able to do is successfully 
> >>>install MS Windows 2K Pro, 2K Server & Fedora Core-3 on the same 
> >>>hardware over the last few hours - in fact, its now running Fedora 
> >>>Core-3 (apparently) happily. I've attached the dmesg from the Fedora 
> >>>install for anyone that might be intested in what the problem might be.
> >>>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>
> >>>Stacey
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     
> >>>
> >>>>Any ideas?
> >>>>
> >>>>More detailed specs on the machine:
> >>>>
> >>>>- Tyan Tiger 133 (S1834 Rev G)
> >>>>- 2xPIII 700/100/256 , 2G RAM, Promise TX2000, 2xMaxtor Plus 8 ATA-133 
> >>>>40G
> >>>>
> >>>>regards
> >>>>
> >>>>Mark
> >>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>>freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list
> >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable
> >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to 
> >>>>"freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
> >>>> 
> >>>>
> >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>_______________________________________________
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> >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable
> >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to 
> >>>>"freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
> >>>> 
> >>>>
> >>>>       
> >>>>
> >>I didn't have any problems with my Tiger 133, although I am running a 
> >>SCSI disk setup.
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >I've got only SCSI disks on my system:
> >2 x QUANTUM   Model: ATLAS10K3_18_WLS  Rev: 020W
> >
> >Running off of a Tekram DC-390U3W card:
> >sym0:1: FAST-80 WIDE SCSI 160.0 MB/s DT (12.5 ns, offset 62)
> >
> >Its an SMP set up:
> >2 x Intel Pentium III 866:
> >Intel machine check architecture supported.
> >Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#1.
> >CPU1: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 0a
> >Total of 2 processors activated (3432.44 BogoMIPS).
> >ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs
> >..TIMER: vector=0x31 pin1=2 pin2=-1
> >checking TSC synchronization across 2 CPUs: passed.
> >Brought up 2 CPUs
> >zapping low mappings.
> >
> >Keeping in mind that the above output is from Fedora-Core3 built on the 
> >same machine early this morning..,
> >
> >Did you install from FreeBSD-5.3 REL cd's?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Stacey
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >>Processors 	2
> >>Model 	Intel Pentium III
> >>Chip MHz 	800 MHz
> >>PCI Devices 	agp0: VIA 82C691 (Apollo Pro) host to PCI bridge
> >>pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge
> >>isab0: PCI-ISA bridge
> >>atapci0: VIA 82C596B UDMA66 controller
> >>ahc0: Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter
> >>fxp0: Intel 82558 Pro/100 Ethernet
> >>IDE Devices 	/none/
> >>SCSI Devices 	cd0: PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-305 1.06
> >>da0: IBM DNES-318350W SA30 (Capacity: 17.93 GB)
> >>
> >>Chris
> >>   
> >>
> >_______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> > 
> >
> Yes, I first upgraded from 5.2, then I did a fresh install from the 
> 5.3-RELEASE CDs and didn't experence a problem on either method.  I also 
> have a Tyan 230T that was talked about in this thread that didn't give 
> me any problems either.  Now all I run on this server is a web site, so 
> it is base install plus Apache, PHP, etc. - no X or desktops.  I 
> remember that there were two types of Tiger 133's one with ISA and one 
> without (mine is without ISA slot).

An update to my side of this problem..,

I managed to find an old thread that explained the "MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout" problem I was experiencing on my system with FreeBSD-5.1 REL and older CD-Rom Sets., here:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=56889

I simply changed the jumper settings of the cdrom drive to "SLAVE", after which I was able to successfully install FreeBSD-5.1 - Note that 5.2.1 and 5.3-REL CD-ROM Set installation cd's still do not work on this machine - just 5.1-REL.

I'm currently cvsup'ing to 5.3-Stable here, hopefully I'll be able to upgrade in a straight-forward way.


Thanks again to all that responded.

Regards,

Stacey


> Chris
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