From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 06:37:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3D0106566B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 06:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckop@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494368FC19 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 06:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckop@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so1891634rvb.43 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:37:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=BIrnHqaiZaNDdlfMF0eHGs/hg2nSqelN61DJQ5Hwtpw=; b=RTRxkldTNJIoA6j5m8U4hJL6WF5v5TdFqfJ5t575bWBTus7oqiRPCRxoIeo7wiq7ZT BlQbFZGEdc7lm0LQLMnPd5LoTspg5poc1JHWfEAF/I8T7Ed2UvXEemJMdZIIUJ7Rcsbq 7OTi6eX04Y6d8osqBzrfciZ11nq/F84RiKt9U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=QUNznL/sMLb9ChUiRU0bjU1p2DcRYuDv+UKnkZJ7X+tVVqE1Z02k3IVw53K179bexf 828BPzvJNCNB5/mq3cGn2hRMVJVK+mtGIoH2HKN8LHjtgNUs8YaYz1OE+8dU1k8Aya9r x/OTQAZzy/TixNh/tNg63vVk/hku45hOlCEUU= Received: by 10.140.133.10 with SMTP id g10mr2199283rvd.113.1235889454920; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? (pool-71-112-33-77.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.33.77]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k41sm5012970rvb.6.2009.02.28.22.37.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:37:33 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Oppermann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:37:26 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090228191416.2421e88a@scorpio> <49AA19F4.2060408@bah.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <49AA19F4.2060408@bah.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902282237.26322.chuckop@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:37:35 -0000 > > That depends on where you are domiciled. Under certain scenarios, simply > > open the box, or installing the software constitutes acceptance of the > > EULA. > > Yes I'm aware of that, but that kind of agreement isn't valid in Sweden. That would be tantamount to allowing software piracy in Sweden. The Mac OS X license agreements are contained in a PDF file here: http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf There is a Swedish language agreement for sales in Sweden. Using on-line translation tools, it appears to be similar to what's already been stated; use of the software consistutes acceptance of the agreement. If you do not agree, you are requested to return the software. Presumably, the retail materials contain this agreement, and I'm sure there is digital copy that is presented and must be agreed to before use. I'm sure that Apple has very good lawyers who drafted the license agreements and are aware of Swedish law. While what you are doing may or may not be in violation of any licenses, your position that "clicking yes or no is not a handshake or oral agreement acording to Swedish law" seems dubious and ill-advised. Consider what you're suggesting: If EULA's and license agreements simply weren't valid in Sweden, then what would prevent massive piracy from occuring? I would assume that if license agreements in Sweden weren't enforcable, someone would be setting up their own software copying business. ...and if that happened, I would expect software companies to change their license agreements in order to prevent it. > If you are under 18 you can't make any > legally binding agreements without your legal guardians permission. That might be true, but at least in the United States, parents or guardians are usually held responsible.