From owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 12:05:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA656ADCFC1 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mokhi64@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE1516E1 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mokhi64@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 88956ADCFBF; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: emulation@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88180ADCFBD; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mokhi64@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x234.google.com (mail-lb0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BA6B16DF; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mokhi64@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lb0-x234.google.com with SMTP id qe11so28455723lbc.3; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 05:05:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=fcTalCEsxnGm4MY+ZS25r3ASiSBWtexJIif/AtgrLkk=; b=mhopUkYm3wtCUfgsALhU5NS1CmMdIM2ilzhTiVd0pirIOgmdBLmmEjGTNRqPbu5t5U vnUWoDYpcM1OcDyVFzfMaW20KS5Y25MfoaovW+uxusKzQcL58dIXnwrsLNUiUrKWojYl MbuwA1I/ml+Wi+DoP2CNXGQLGqQrQNZwFQaVlb9Yn0NjQO6CuWVQsEG3mz+BvRdsxAJS nmSY6lCzfrlbdHocvbWWIhDvuBGFqmHVJ0QNsdVo+LcZeQB/xFO2xvl7AdnGHyhUHwH1 ILpLRkHTpR5QnsmRmdIrrqjKWnbCj7nBTaNFvCC+5g2rIO1weyn3XkF7/6ZvD36O3eiE UaLg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=fcTalCEsxnGm4MY+ZS25r3ASiSBWtexJIif/AtgrLkk=; b=Mf6/vywopaXFtNZ1SjEXOKeoUbRk6dC/+eN7h/y9mrza+u6e2VKoMQPnTyV8N3XOPF pvY4MK6h/ZKc/cXC1K6cQu601BvWDfhaQUUTWy9Qla+zaZn3SUqXxNuRnPbiRVSDdq+t v7uU3OoSfLodpOx1nuR2JfNim4CxvdMJE9kPAw9IMgeBdTTfFyxpzQR6FoR6EoLDEim9 mymL7Q32pcVtA4iwkyU3UOjdbIy/gvYg5J++mwyYdbdOwD5HkhfzDxyDEM1czRt1XOQd CfjZUbFqET2JkzR3IDCROxOQw3J8QD7r4BrwUERGwzOejFlaZO3mayXEgP4e003CNMMe lkCw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIcGesNKMc0BzGqi7ckstsq3NSSd89We0Q7I/Sd8Ys9h1E32OY3K33RdSHJxgaRRuvO/9AIv5wT2UMwbA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.124.137 with SMTP id mi9mr3258685lbb.112.1458821139002; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 05:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.139.68 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 05:05:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7554521E-81AB-43DE-A7FC-A9F334F660B7@FreeBSD.org> References: <7554521E-81AB-43DE-A7FC-A9F334F660B7@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:35:38 +0430 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD MachO File format, your comments on it. From: mokhi To: David Chisnall Cc: emulation@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:05:41 -0000 Hi. I'm agreed with point you told about improvements we can do for fat format (or more). And I'm ready to do them (with your helps, sure :D). But we need short steps and more of them (a local proverb :D) IMO. If we completely do this image activator, then we can have 2 sub plans for OSX emulation and/or fat data segment redesign. I saw netbsd's way of mach-kernel/darwin emulation. They have been stopped in porting/simulating quartz (the reason described lack of developers' interest IIRC), and that relates to OSX emulating. If we wanna complete/continue that way, first we need this image activator, what's your opinion about it? BTW, in brief I believe we can have strategies to do (sub plans) and it worth (at least for me, because I'll learn good things). What's your opinion? Best wishes, Mokhi.