From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 17 17:31:13 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD0D2C25F9 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 17:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic313-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic313-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.179.188]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 493jmw0LKTz4KQQ for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 17:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: rPr0ee8VM1mUyIvkXqyOo.N6FO6dgiAHL24NYx.Ju6iCpX.hyAnido49cq9Qr4h .fFRalRPBk2Z7zvCCBK_B1473YjCKp8v9G6KYOHNqAIUUuTawFp3ZGBHErf_QIISWFOFUlwXveeB AAzXXY2H6L1I3hoN.azVqsF2Pp5kMHHP._rqc.73QZyn97rKmPHv0y4S_84v0Mveowm5oFu35usB JvkUqWLRolGyv_F0LDWs3TUb5DATdW3QzRQIko9PaluRbmZvoHzTt7UQ5.3_YKvYHTrgE68sJ4i8 yw8T9.2dK6gC0xKWW92vdyGJMWyu0n5M4TS0zipbWOlaxRQYvJRkezHso.EnKdLPYGbgh_h2j2WI UHI7MObpV4Ju2Bmg.r6O5_BERNdRAtgT99td.YO1tVjv8ACpHY5F_lNPgau7Kn5aJ67R4_ImSFt7 Q8j28F0JHGs4od7bPhuXbRUogNSRf8EThmJ8IJKdq5FicsimfB50cK1nimbn8GR5KgHBahpvQB3g 0pPTnA8gFrJnG15P1GYh7n73msN0e1PpLmiiNbQrwLhzYFCV6yhCk9JBPG410C4t4HpBRkjJ8o0y kOI7V6s7qRLnrSQzxBCaoooEhdBSUkvA52uzYTPYvmgsuHXlIqaDq9zEkk0i3oj9zwZZMs4YQNyp 71mTsFNXKRJ9_7e44IMKhL1NAXv9lIWEhYNu5KzlE8DXHOkkx0HvK5QdXjYd3Sn_NIPbPpfkF.Gv onjIV6aP0ZoJkWKQC09NL_51gY5Yv4YIoB9euBsp0.7N45tQW6QSyla.SHBRFtQz_OkwE_68P0bh 8vQUZEw_GLxnxu6Sa0ndfhiQzWpSUb1R45h5DWV4rv93xwkAQauB.2QXVErHcRoC6pkPY7JfaM7H qkXpgLbQ_HFaPQffenNyfLxJLcFe633gRgfx7CYadpSpJmkyBsKFTWEcrC4uarYw.HTUbs.7Vgvr 6t3iyvwwbTTMA6XeWMOiLfLnQwYz_4SaY2zGUWYHC26x88CBeISB4oeK_U9DoeFaSr1ImzIrt0ie tBOhJSQQGV4Yla30qZ6rq6WOMOcfVVqKdUOUYje20S7WTh8_7.9i_6ANFKjH9mOTBz3EHbdMx_eR _.oEF0tPpjDzr_jaHaXb0JCHiDQpXrEtjVwU1yEQrBgVeAxQjHv1p4nNCyeM3lk3XxCm67kv3X6D dER.w_EHqOgkwbohzFMrDxfl2A2tVVbkW31lNNreXPZLhR4Mvm35nMewQf92YBFhEPS0kTSrUYuY zQ6QhHNDLS9Gm9rv4bOErwnjVdrTLqyU.7ICMNA6Sgm2LqEKRF2ZspYtYzj93a7Gr8thZcLwmA7V g0nZqSezA7vFYk2NxM78u3YFEbbFaPIbvolsh8Ltns7BMiczqZ3xdbaqOMDfW.u1x4OlcuElRj8u tMMwa9boB5ts- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic313.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 17:31:09 +0000 Received: by smtp403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID cc204d330564cd4b3dbb7263c95df635; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 17:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 19:31:05 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd should be rewritten based on microkernel architecture Message-ID: <20200417193105.0ec80c89@archlinux> In-Reply-To: References: <3f1496d1f598c84b3871b630f161256e152aca75.camel@tom.com> <20200417181142.5f7a613b@archlinux> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 493jmw0LKTz4KQQ X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.24 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.79)[-0.794,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.95)[-0.952,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[188.179.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (4.15), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.15), asn: 34010(1.69), country: GB(-0.07)]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[188.179.238.77.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 17:31:13 -0000 On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 12:43:07 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html#SubscriptionFee (Which >forbids the example you gave) This is utter nonsense. It says: "Can I use GPLed software on a device that will stop operating if customers do not continue paying a subscription fee? No. In this scenario, the requirement to keep paying a fee limits the user's ability to run the program. This is an additional requirement on top of the GPL, and the license prohibits it." Ardour (the software example I gave) does not stop working, if a customer stops paying the Ardour subscription. The GPL probably contains several pitfalls, but IMO this isn't one of them. It's possible to make a living from GPL'ed software and even to use GPL'ed software and a Linux kernel "in a life critical application", while not being an "idiot". It's probably a good idea to put some effort in development and maintenance of "life critical" software and hardware, what ever license applies, what ever operating system and hardware is used.