From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 24 10:35:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AA4106566B for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:35:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7001B8FC15 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.134] (helo=smtp3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qkw2I-0003Pa-7T for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:35:50 +0200 Received: from 524944af.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.73.68.175] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qkw2H-0001DU-Fu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:35:49 +0200 Received: from [192.168.11.34] (192.168.11.34) by yanta (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 12BE4F; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:36:27 +0200 Message-ID: <4E2BF598.30704@nagual.nl> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:36:08 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; nl; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E23989F.7010701@gmail.com> <4e242fab.s4vpgxxZEUq0LFDq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <1311017168.44397.YahooMailRC@web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <13800_1311018255_4E248D0F_13800_81_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C521864F@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110718162245.0d426239@scorpio> <20110719032131.GA29635@guilt.hydra> <20110719085529.1671ec7f@scorpio> <20110722105642.d21067c0.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110722125826.GA73065@guilt.hydra> <20110722110540.6105ccc9@scorpio> <20110723215807.GA78426@guilt.hydra> <20110723200030.59a4adea@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110723200030.59a4adea@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Qkw2H-0001DU-Fu X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0.247, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D 0.67, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: dick@nagual.nl X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:35:52 -0000 Op 24-7-2011 2:00 schreef Jerry: > On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:58:07 -0600 > Chad Perrin articulated: > >> You are clearly an asshole who has no interest in having a reasonable >> discussion. "Newer methods" do not "frighten" me, you stupid asshole. > Thanks Chad. At one time I thought you were intelligent with > conflicting views. However, the more of your posts I have read over the > past several months, the more I have become convinced that you are > suffering from Paranoia. From an earlier post: >> > >> > Dinosaurs are dead and the world moves forward. To deny others the >> > availability and use of newer methods simply because they frighten you >> > is beyond belief. > You are clearly an asshole who has no interest in having a reasonable > discussion. "Newer methods" do not "frighten" me, you stupid asshole. > > Learn to read. I must say I find Chad's post very reasonable and worth reading. When somone refers to me as a dinosaur I would also be a little offended. Hence, I understand Chad's reaction to that statement of yours. If your read his posts carefully you have to admid they are well thought of, at least that's my feeling. Mind you, I might have hold myself back of what Chad said (uou stupid asshole). I would like to think I would have controlled my anger ;-) > A fellow poster, Bruce Cran made a reference to the Windows registry. > Although he was quite correct in his remarks, you choose to belittle > his contribution. That might be true. But I can't see how digging in Windows registry can be compared by editing a few simple textfiles the way UNIX had always worked. Althoudh the network settings might actually be in this registry setting it simply is not the same as a /etc/network file. Or on freebsd a etc/rc.conf > You have serious mental health issues Chad. Get help! This might also be taken offensively. You are no shrink. why make such remarks. Let's stop this tone of arguments please. And going back on the subject of network managers I have to agree I too hate these tools from the moment they took over the manual way of setting things. Even good old solaris now has this on by *default*. Horrible (imho).