From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 1 21:40:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154C816A46B for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2008 21:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEE113C442; Tue, 1 Jan 2008 21:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <477AB33B.7000506@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 22:40:11 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikhail Teterin References: <200801012116.m01LGQhN012860@bonkers.video-collage.com> In-Reply-To: <200801012116.m01LGQhN012860@bonkers.video-collage.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: efinleywork@efinley.com, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: a new way to hang 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:40:19 -0000 Mikhail Teterin wrote: >>>>> Is this really a new way, or is it well known already? Thanks! -L >>>> has been hanging systems ever since it existed. Don't use it. >>> Why does `dump' implore me to use it, then? > >> Because the previous poster is being uncharitable with the facts :) > > I'd say both previous posters reported problems -- their tone was > different, but both reported their glass being, uhm, less then full :) They made claims but failed to actually report anything. >> There are a history of problems with -L (more generally, UFS >> snapshots), but these are believed to have been fixed over the past 2 >> years. Since you are claiming to have found a new one, please follow >> up with the usual kernel debugging so someone can try and study it. > > I'll try, but I am not, unfortunately, well setup for kernel debugging. > Most of the time I only have one system, and can't afford to hang it even > for a short while. OK. Maybe it will stay broken until someone else can reproduce then. Kris