From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jun 6 09:37:02 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A54FEEA16 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 09:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed@nuxi.nl) Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70A5C6C896 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 09:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed@nuxi.nl) Received: by mail-wm0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id p126-v6so10259335wmb.2 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 02:37:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nuxi-nl.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=lXzhGIn8u7FkhIzvlsTOqHTLfWOg7+sBlMFcem7zaUk=; b=ODMitodL5ONiRSKc1EsxjVdrCnimS4Ng5fXrHycKnHeSN0VXd4efFczARv0F6iUvEJ 3FjQp6VLjG4/SvwF/AjUINQ/Q8xI+TdkgSpZiwbv5wm9E1heWofLULr2UmR4Pz0vSgZp N1UUVte7e7m20YneqNCOfOmn/BJQMJTvwaEk+GFYe4dj1XkWCbfpzRVZRixNAR7f1kgy q4gqkz/S/4u/7Dp5SltYT0W6uwx1aUeXa5vOWwYKmvfH4aABmfiP2xYQfQ71fwPp2XEC JGfyCPS2rYFuwktDyF+ZSFvEhkIV1XGWSM7Spawe0HqlHQN5yH6egtJEFiJfCKOS8s5e Ia6w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lXzhGIn8u7FkhIzvlsTOqHTLfWOg7+sBlMFcem7zaUk=; b=nq618etY36G0/P+k8obfx48S112DHp7Ad/AYZAi2ey9PNEVoVKdh4QG4RieSus5WtR mPjTGrotFuR75AXU2OiGHxIV3zDKa465FhI/bzGj/bsZVh9dkvk9/GEdWsA8/p6wADIf YdoCRoYNzVFKBHYvM35JQqXvKMGiPmMqNVhYfmvOXplRE4aqYlfzZiPYSLsFQMnp76Ir GupBzAOssn++ccRsNbvM9U1mOw03SsLSwfkJud5f4NLtYZWrmwgfOoFvvIipCyKUHW8u BVYwfPpi12TjYlWNCTvpuOPMkdAmouNM5d89SGCQJC5ypp2Bw2A5rqnwEGIwMsc51Cct zThA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E138/05KhHyIpOUHLrQembF7ptg8ALv/y/a8st9nNqSmDVZRXyj 8wgAHVmjKYH0MgBsz65IJh5mCIln+0ROMJlbdv40Ug== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKIjc0h1zVFvPkLdMelNZL9ALj1v2wn6DBaPNxn5LGFPHi5IrEo5oA2UlpfrcNu6EIteQVeFwfD+M9fBj1ZJJds= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:c588:: with SMTP id g8-v6mr2881819edq.200.1528277820380; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 02:37:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a50:8e0d:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 02:36:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ed Schouten Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 11:36:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Odd w/who behavior for the last 12 years To: "Timur I. Bakeyev" Cc: FreeBSD Current , Ed Schouten , Robert Watson , Alan Jude , Michal Mertl Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 09:37:02 -0000 Hi Timur, 2018-05-28 5:26 GMT+02:00 Timur I. Bakeyev : > So I propose to remove the said patch(or make it verify only "pts/" > devices). any objections? Sounds good! Changes like the ones made in r155875 were simply workarounds to deal with processes silly enough not to write DEAD_PROCESS entries. Instead of patching up w, wall, who, etc. we should spend effort to fix these problems at the root instead. Be sure to cc me on code reviews! -- Ed Schouten Nuxi, 's-Hertogenbosch, the Netherlands