From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 7 7:51:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from marvin.trident-uk.co.uk (mail.trident-uk.co.uk [195.166.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C634D37B403; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 07:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by marvin.trident-uk.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g57EXbZ20412; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:33:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from JAMIEHECKFORD (wrkstn-68.pe.trident-uk.co.uk [192.168.100.68]) by marvin.trident-uk.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1av) with SMTP id g57EXZa20402; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:33:35 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <012601c20e32$c92c6a00$4464a8c0@JAMIEHECKFORD> From: "Jamie Heckford" To: Cc: References: <200206071447.g57ElqBZ001996@intruder.bmah.org> Subject: Re: Viewpoint on 4.6RC4 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:51:20 +0100 Organization: Trident Microsystems Limited MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Not sure if this is planned or if it has been done... but is there any chance we can have sendmail removed (In the next release cycle - or -current) from a base installation completly perl style? Jamie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: "Kenneth Mays" Cc: Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Viewpoint on 4.6RC4 > If memory serves me right, "Kenneth Mays" wrote: > > > My only request is that we get to test these applications and > > have some of them become the default applications in the base system: > > Hi Ken-- > > Thanks for the feedback, but it's way too late to be suggesting feature > improvements for 4.6-RELEASE. The time to make suggestions like this is > at the start of the release cycle, not the end. Please see the schedule > for 4.6-RELEASE: > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6R/schedule.html > > The releases are not about making newer versions of programs available > for testing. They're about making available the best-tested, most > dependable code we're able to provide, within engineering and logistical > constraints. If you want to test new stuff *and* you can deal with > possible breakage, try -STABLE or -CURRENT. > > That being said, many of the programs you've listed are already in the > ports collection that will ship with 4.6-RELEASE. They might not be > identical to what might eventually show up in the base system (due to > some changes, bugfixes, etc. that get made by our developers when > integrating them). > > > 1. NTP 4.1.1a > > /usr/ports/net/ntp > > > 2. Sendmail 8.12.4 > > Very recent...I didn't even know this existed until a couple days back. > It was added to the ports collection after the ports freeze. > > > 3. tar 1.13.25 or whatever is the most updated 'stable' version. > > /usr/ports/archivers/gtar > > > 4. GCC 2.95.3 & 3.1 selections in GUI (whatever is the most reliable) > > /usr/ports/lang/gcc295 > /usr/ports/lang/gcc31 > > > 5. OpenSSH 3.2.3 and OpenSSL 0.9.6c/d > > That OpenSSH release is pretty recent. I don't think it made the ports > freeze either. > > /usr/ports/security/openssl > > > 6. Samba 2.2.4 > > Not in the base system. > > /usr/ports/net/samba > > > 7. Nvidia recent drivers (test these with Xfree86 4.2.x) on Quadro/geforce > > boards > > Don't know about these. If we ship them, it'd be in ports, not the > base system. > > > I just notice that this was some of the current issues we are having besides > > the basic/advanced base system testing. Some of this was already done but > > listed here for reference. > > > > I know FreeBSD isn't intended to be a Solaris 9 for the free world (or is > > it?!?) and I know we all have problems with hardware issues (the most > > common). Is there an easier way to put all our issues together in a simple > > doc to compile the information needed to make improvements for the 4.6 > > release?!? > > I'm sorry, I don't understand these two paragraphs. > > Hope this helps, > > Bruce. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message