From owner-freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org Sat Nov 4 15:23:41 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-toolchain@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0215E4D572; Sat, 4 Nov 2017 15:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from vps-mail.nomadlogic.org (mail.nomadlogic.org [IPv6:2607:f2f8:a098::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71C197235A; Sat, 4 Nov 2017 15:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from [192.168.1.208] (cpe-23-242-94-236.socal.res.rr.com [23.242.94.236]) by vps-mail.nomadlogic.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 4f19a509 TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Sat, 4 Nov 2017 08:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Head build unsafe for /etc today To: Bryan Drewery , Warner Losh , Steve Kargl Cc: freebsd-hackers , FreeBSD Toolchain , FreeBSD Current References: <3045EEBF-09E6-4209-B54F-2F95394DBA82@FreeBSD.org> <20171103014907.GA88522@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <68BECDA4-C182-436E-854C-C3B19ABB4373@FreeBSD.org> <20171103022327.GA88659@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <998FF503-D4B0-4AD5-AD55-98680E4D66CA@FreeBSD.org> <20171103035010.GA89291@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> From: Pete Wright Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 08:23:38 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Maintenance of FreeBSD's integrated toolchain List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2017 15:23:41 -0000 On 11/03/2017 13:14, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 11/2/2017 8:58 PM, Warner Losh wrote: >> FreeBSD has grown too big to test every possible thing before you commit. > The build itself is massive. I usually forget about release/ and the > new 'make packages', external toolchain, "old style" kernel builds, etc. > > Steve's concerns have validity. I do think it's time we have an > automated suite to test most build cases for things like bmake upgrades > or other high risk changes like META_MODE. > > > I'll think about this and add to my list of things to implement. > hey Bryan - this sounds like a pretty awesome task to take on, i'd be willing to help out with this effort as well.  if/when you come up with a plan would it be possible to ping freebsd-current@ so that i can see if there is anything i'll be able to help out with (assuming there isn't already a wiki or list somewhere i can reference to see where i may be able to chip in)? cheers! -pete -- Pete Wright pete@nomadlogic.org @nomadlogicLA