From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 4 10:45:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BF916A401 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:45:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.candler@pobox.com) Received: from proof.pobox.com (proof.pobox.com [207.106.133.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EC143D64 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:45:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from b.candler@pobox.com) Received: from proof (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proof.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518B3D0CB2; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 06:45:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mappit.local.linnet.org (212-74-113-67.static.dsl.as9105.com [212.74.113.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by proof.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1293834804; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 06:45:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brian by mappit.local.linnet.org with local (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FQj2S-000DGh-NO; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 11:45:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 11:45:32 +0100 From: Brian Candler To: Rainer Duffner Message-ID: <20060404104532.GA50936@uk.tiscali.com> References: <44318FD2.1050206@rogers.com> <443196DD.603@deepcore.dk> <44319C9A.1060105@rogers.com> <20060404092931.GB50647@uk.tiscali.com> <4432408B.3070905@ultra-secure.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4432408B.3070905@ultra-secure.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Broadcom ServerWorks HT-1000 support in OpenBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 10:45:37 -0000 On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 11:46:51AM +0200, Rainer Duffner wrote: > Brian Candler wrote: > >On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 06:07:22PM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: > > > >>I see. If i could id contribute, but alas I'm unemployed now. Maybe > >>freebsd should charge for CDs like openbsd does, to fund the cause :P > >> > > > >Like these? http://www.freebsdmall.com/ > > > > > I think he wants to suggest that the project should not produce > ISO-Images anymore. I see, or sell CDs which you are explicitly forbidden from copying: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq3.html#ISO "The official OpenBSD CD-ROM layout is copyright Theo de Raadt. Theo does not permit people to redistribute images of the official OpenBSD CDs." I'd say that's not really in the spirit of BSD. If FreeBSD went this way, I'd start looking elsewhere. So they lose out on users and developers (OpenBSD probably wouldn't want me as a user anyway :-) I can see the point though. It's probably easier as a corporate user to raise a PO for a CD-ROM set to support the project, if the image isn't available for download. > [*] http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/ - seems like there's on package > less I have to worry about.... I guess that means Java needs FreeBSD now more than FreeBSD needs Java :-) Regards, Brian.